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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:47 am to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33791 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:47 am to
quote:

Despite what many think here, LSU doesnt recruit itself.

So?

What has Miles to show for it? Why not get an actual coach in here (like Fla did with McElwain) and after he turns this bus around, the recruits will follow (like McElwain did with Franks)

See how that works?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25642 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:51 am to
quote:

One thing I will say I'm not a fan of is having the boosters "determine" (this is how I interpreted it) saying "we'll tell you (Alleva, who I am not a fan of) to hire


Boosters are fans too and they want to see LSU win just as much as anybody. IMHO they would go the extra mile where as someone with a less than enthusiastic approach to LSU football might not care as much who coaches the football team.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32107 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:53 am to
quote:

Boosters are fans too



I understand that. That's my point.


Why have an AD then? Again, I'm not a fan of Alleva's but to let fans with boo coo amounts of money basically "hire" someone is kinda weird.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
7008 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Les wouldn't go 110-32 if you start counting from this week forward


THIS!! I bet none of them would bet against that either
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:10 am to
i bet les miles wouldn't avg 10-3 the rest of his time if he stayed. what's the big deal.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26616 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:40 am to
He's right
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
11819 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:26 am to
All Les had to do was adapt change his offense just like Saban did. He was to hard headed. Them people saying we spoiled rotten no we just tried of watching that power I and run up the middle 4 to 5 times in a row. I can't watch another game with that type of offense. I don't want a spread but I do want a true pro set offense. That's all
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33396 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:42 am to
quote:

quote:
I say this: I'll bet you money that whoever's next at LSU doesn't survive 11 years and doesn't go 110-32. I'll take the under on both of those for the limit.


Odds are he's right


He may be right but he should have also included Les in that prediction
Posted by XKEnut
Member since Jan 2010
1852 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:47 am to
The next coach to come in won't have Saban's Ferrari to drive, so yeah, it will be tougher.
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 4:58 am to
SVP likes Miles. Heck, as a person, who wouldn't. He's a very decent man. However, we don't want just a decent man who can recruit anymore, we want a decent man who can recruit and who can speak normally and who can coach greatly.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72702 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:04 am to
quote:

Les wouldn't go 110-32 if you start counting from this week forward.


Why do people not acknowledge this? Just because this scenario has lead to harder times for some programs didn't mean change wasn't needed
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72702 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:05 am to
quote:

Again, I'm not a fan of Alleva's but to let fans with boo coo amounts of money basically "hire" someone is kinda weird.


Just like any other figurehead. People behind them with fricktons of money
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23615 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 5:15 am to
The media can go screw. For years they used Miles as a source of quirky soundbites and portrayed him as a lovable idiot. Now that it appears he may be out, they want to run to his defense?
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:08 am to
quote:

Les wouldn't go 110-32 if you start counting from this week forward


Therefore, he wouldn't last 11 years.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
5054 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:15 am to
I will bet good money that the new coach has a better record the next 4 years than Miles did the last 4. And that's even before seeing the next hire. People need to realIze the very poor downward trends that have been happening. The media whines anytime a coach gets let go that wasn't 100% garbage. After we get the new guy and get back to playing good football they will the look back and acknowledge this was the right time to do it.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:22 am to
Another person who has been blind the last 4 years... I guarantee we can find somebody who can go better than 13-10 in the SEC in last 3 years. Nobody cares now that miles won 10 games a year 7-8 years ago..., he sucks NOW and someone can do better.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:27 am to
Of course he's right. He knows football. He played it once with friends. He knows Louisiana , he knows who Lsu's next coach will be. He can read into the future 11 years. Impressive
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4240 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:35 am to
quote:

I think people are just frustrated with the offense, and the inability to beat Alabama.


True, but it goes much deeper than that for me. Watching LSU play anybody is painful. I guess I like to see a well coached team 100% of the time. I don't mind getting beat by the better team, IF my team executed and simply got beat. Watching the team fail to execute and sputter for years is not entertaining. They also lack discipline. The reasons are numerous. Its just not a well coached team. Period.
Posted by Doyle McPoyle
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
523 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:14 am to
Add SVP to the list of national, objective sports media that think LSU is nuts for all of this
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:18 am to
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Odds are he's right


Right because they'll be inheriting a program that is 8 years away from a national title instead of 1 and coached by Les Miles instead of Nick Saban.

Miles inherited a program set up for success. He will be leaving what adds up to a rebuilding project in comparison.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 7:23 am
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