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Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6639 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:05 pm to
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Do you honestly believe that Saban and Meyer are the only coaches in the entire country who could consistently win championships in the SEC?


tresell/paterno are consistently winning in big 10. and consitent in getting beat down by the sec. want them?

stoops/brown consistent in big 12 brown 0-1 vs sec in national championship game
stopps 1-2 vw sec in bowls and 5-6 all time in bowls, pretty crappy




Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:10 pm to
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Who do you actually think would WANT to come here after the way we have treated one of the most successful coaches in LSU's history? Especially after paople are calling for his head two years removed from a NC! Really? Let's be honest here. We might get a good one, but I doubt a great coach would want to come in here after the way our"fans" act. Just my two cents.


Then we should get our two cents back. There has never been a school that was unable to hire a coach because of how they were perceived as having treated the previous one. The examples are so numerous that it's a waste of time even starting to list them.

Coaches want...

MONEY

A CHANCE TO WIN

VISIBILITY

That's it. If you offer that, they don't give a shite if you tarred and feathered the last guy.
Posted by CHSvideoman
B/t Spanish Town & Beauregard Town
Member since Oct 2009
1648 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:10 pm to
That's pretty childish!
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8190 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:16 pm to
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Never mind the 24,999 OTHER Tiger fans there, let's just anoint one idiot as the spokesman for the entire LSU crowd at the game.



Oh, the douche at the game probably got their attention, and they are using the rant as the backup support for the "sensationalization"...

This is exactly why some people around here... even with some questions and disappointments, still try to curb all the name-calling, doomsday, out and out bashing around here... IT'S PUBLIC DOMAIN and you don't really know who's "listening"....

Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:20 pm to
That is embarrassing if true. WHAT A JOKE
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:20 pm to
Curly Hallman didn't do shite but land a few blue chippers to scatter through the line up. We were still losing the top talent in the state to the Miami's, FSU's, Colorado, and anyone else who wanted to come in the state and cherry pick. Dinardo started winning with his freshmen class of Kevin Faulk, Alan Faneca, and Herb Tyler to name a few. Hallman is the worst hire I have ever seen in major college football, I couldn't believe when that arse wipe Joe Dean introduced that idiot.
Posted by jcb236
Cut Off, LA
Member since Feb 2010
546 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:35 pm to
As I remember the Hallman hire, he had coached to some big time victories while at USM. I think he beat Alabama. He looked reasonably good on paper at that time, but he also had (I think) a reasonably good qb called Brett Favre. The qb turned out to be better than anyone thought, and the victories had little to do with Hallman. I also heard he had several character flaws and weaknesses.

As I remember, his first press confernece was all about discipline and keeping the team in line. There was some talk, and he said that no player would wear earrings while he was here. Never happened. I remember his teams as truly undisicplined, and I seem to think that everything that he proposed was never implemented.

He was the worst coach that I can remember.
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8190 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:39 pm to
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That is embarrassing if true. WHAT A JOKE


Why is the jerk in Atlanta any more embararrasing than the stuff people put on HERE is my question....
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:44 pm to
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Curly Hallman didn't do shite but land a few blue chippers to scatter through the line up.


Check out the starting lineup on defense in 1995. It was full of outstanding talent that had all been signed by Hallman. It's true that he didn't succeed in locking down the state, but he did a hell of a lot better than Archer. With Archer's recruiting, we had the likes of Scott Wharton starting in the DL when Hallman first arrived. DiNardo inherited Gabe Northern, Chuck Wiley, Kenny Mixon, James Gillyard, etc. I'm not sure whether Anthony McFarland ever redshirted, but if so, then that would mean he, too, was a Hallman recruit. Clarence LeBlanc, Denard Walker and a few others whose names escape me at the moment were very good in the secondary.
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Dinardo started winning with his freshmen class of Kevin Faulk, Alan Faneca, and Herb Tyler to name a few.

Hallman already had Faulk all but in the bag before he got fired. DiNardo picked up where Hallman left off and closed the deal. Hallman also had Rondell Mealey and Kendall Cleveland on RS waiting for DiNardo. At receiver, he had Eddie Kennison and Sheddrick Wilson. In the line, I think Kevin Mawae was a Hallman recruit, but I don't remember who else we had then.

Curley Hallman had no idea what to do with talent when he got it, but he sure knew how to get it.
This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:55 pm to
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Hallman is the worst hire I have ever seen in major college football


He was bad, but Archer was worse. Archer actually told a gathering of Louisiana high school coaches that LSU couldn't win with Louisiana talent. It was also during that time that G.W. Eames pulled his bullshite and basically shut off New Orleans to us.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:57 pm to
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As I remember, his first press confernece was all about discipline and keeping the team in line. There was some talk, and he said that no player would wear earrings while he was here. Never happened. I remember his teams as truly undisicplined, and I seem to think that everything that he proposed was never implemented.


Yes, if I remember right, he was also big on a rule that players could not celebrate after scoring a TD (it was legal under the rules back then). Shortly into his tenure, it was a sad joke that he had managed to accomplish that by having us not score any touchdowns to celebrate.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22916 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 3:58 pm to
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Hallman is the worst hire I have ever seen in major college football
He was the wonderboy because under his watch. So. Miss had played some very hard games versus Alabama and beat the Tide in 1990.

Otherwise dominated by the same Tide year in and year out, USM held a sort of gris-gris over Bama and had tied them in 1981, beat them in 1982, 1990, and 2000 (Not all of these were Hallman-coached wins).

In addition to having Brett Favre as USM's record setting QB for his entire tenure, Hallman's win over UA came in 1990, just in time to have an overall record at USM of 23-11 in a total of 34 games coached by him. And just in time to get the notice of Joe Dean or whatever brain it was behind his being hired at LSU.

Hallman's golden status quickly tarnished in Baton Rouge, as Curley led our Tigers to an overall dismal record of 16 wins, 28 losses, a percentage of .364 until his dismissal in 1994.

Let us never think things could not be worse.
This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:08 pm to
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Hallman's golden status quickly tarnished in Baton Rouge, as Curley led our Tigers to an overall dismal record of 16 wins, 28 losses, a percentage of .364 until his dismissal in 1994.



And it was even worse than it looked. Not only did he never have a winning season, he was never over .500 at any point in any season.
Posted by mgmer
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2007
294 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:09 pm to
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it is just as likely (if not more likely) that LSU will hire a good coach who will consistently win championships.


Only in Fantasy Football. Keep telling yourself this. How long did it take Bama? How long did it take LSU to win another after 1958? How about Miami?

This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 4:10 pm
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:11 pm to
CP3lsu25:
I'm not happy with Miles BUT c'mon
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you cause the problems because you always have a BUT, just like the booing ranterds.


p.s. correct your spelling.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:17 pm to
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Natural consequences of our LSU tradition of partying hearty before game-time, and sometimes during games


Nothing "Natural" or amusing bout poor sportsmanship.

That's a learned behavior due to the fact it's tolerated by too many of us. imo

Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:21 pm to
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If Miles is fired, it is just as likely (if not more likely) that LSU will hire a good coach who will consistently win championships.



I doubt that as the majority of coaches in the United States have NEVER consistently won championships. Where is this mythical creature that wins championships year in and year out? Bama was looking for him for a LOOOOONG time.

I'm guessing USC, Bama, Miami, Oklahoma, Texas, etc are just passing over this person cause they don't care to win as many national championships as us LSU fans do. Furthermore, we're a better program than ANY of those I listed, right? I mean, we're soooo special.

Pull your head out of your arse.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:23 pm to
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you cause the problems because you always have a BUT, just like the booing ranterds.



What the F*** are you talking about
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:24 pm to
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How long did it take LSU to win another after 1958?


One of the primary reasons that LSU didn't win an NC for half a century is that we accepted two decades of rank mediocrity under Mac because he was an affable old fellow. 18 years, 1 (ONE!) SECC, and zero NC's.

I'd prefer that LSU avoid making the exact same mistake again.

Of all the arguments in favor of Miles, the one I absolutely LOATHE the most is the notion that we should retain Miles - even if he is mediocre -because he is all that LSU can rightfully expect. Don't consign LSU to the dustbin of history. The last decade demonstrated without doubt that this program can dominate on a consistent basis with the right coach. If Miles can't maintain the momentum of the program, if he can't sustain excellence, then fire him and find a coach who can. It's not an impossible task. We don't have to be a perpetual 8-4 team. LSU can dare to aspire to something grander.

This year will go a long way towards defining the currrent direction of LSU's program.

Edit:

This dreck is representative of exactly the type of defeatist nonsense that disgusts me:

"I'm guessing USC, Bama, Miami, Oklahoma, Texas, etc are just passing over this person cause they don't care to win as many national championships as us LSU fans do. Furthermore, we're a better program than ANY of those I listed, right? I mean, we're soooo special."


This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/10 at 4:31 pm to
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Where is this mythical creature that wins championships year in and year out? Bama was looking for him for a LOOOOONG time.


Yep. And instead of just accepting whatever they got, they kept looking and firing and looking and firing until they found him. Of course he won't win it year in and year out (which isn't what "consistently" meant in the post you responded to), but his teams will consistently be in the hunt and winning more than their share of the SEC West titles.
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I'm guessing USC, Bama, Miami, Oklahoma, Texas, etc are just passing over this person cause they don't care to win as many national championships as us LSU fans do.

No, they're not looking for anyone because they have good coaches already, except maybe USC and Miami at the moment.
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Furthermore, we're a better program than ANY of those I listed, right? I mean, we're soooo special.

See, that's the mentality that kills LSU. Sarcastically referring to us among the elite as if to suggest we have no business being there. There's no fricking reason in the world why we can't be in that elite class. No reason except the unwillingness to demand and expect to be there.
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