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re: Temple's lack of offense makes my blood pressure rise
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:23 am to Stromile Swift
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:23 am to Stromile Swift
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Personally, I thought he would progress more from an offensive perspective due to him being such a hard worker. For whatever reason, it just hasn't come for him. During the off-season, he puts in countless hours working on his perimeter shot.
That he has done Stromile. Don't discount the fact that he still suffers with the wrist he injured last year according to TJ.
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Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:26 am to basiletiger
Look, Temple is not a shooter. Never has and never will be. But the game is so much more than just shooting. He defends as well as anyone in the league. He handles the ball well and leads in assists. He has a high basketball IQ and is a leader on this team.
We don't need a team full of shooters to be successful. Programs need steady and dependable players like Temple. We wouldn't be where we are this year without him.
We don't need a team full of shooters to be successful. Programs need steady and dependable players like Temple. We wouldn't be where we are this year without him.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 11:27 am
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:26 am to X Carter Is Fast
I still think Spencer starts at the point guard position over Garrett Temple. But, that's just my opinion! 
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:36 am to basiletiger
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I know I shouldn't be looking at the negative side of our LSU basketball team. Especially since they are playing really well. But, I can't seem to ignore the fact that Garrett Temple hasn't improved at all offensively in the 4 years that he has been here. The game would have never went into over-time if he wouldn't have blown that lay-up!
Temple is a 2 star kid basketball wise. He's a solid defensive contributor that had neither existing offensive skills nor the potential to improve them. We realized that between his frosh and soph years when we heard nothing but "Garrett's been shooting hundreds of threes in the offseason". Result?
.269 from 3.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:38 am to TigerRagAndrew
A 2 star kid basketball wise doesn't lock down the best shooters in the game on our Final Four run. A 2 star kid isn't the best perimeter defender in the conference.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:39 am to basiletiger
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Coach Johnson could have swayed Greg Monroe to LSU.
or just kept j. morgan
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:40 am to basiletiger
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PG Bo Spencer
SG Marcus Thornton
SF Anthony Randolph
PF Chris Johnson
C Greg Monroe
tasmin not starting?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:47 am to Tiger Authority
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A 2 star kid basketball wise doesn't lock down the best shooters in the game on our Final Four run.
He deserves credit for shutting Redick down, which was straight due to effort on his part. The ACC simply didn't expend the effort in 2005-06. Redick certainly can't out-athlete Temple.
However, I noticed Acie Law, Farmar, and Collison pretty much having their way with him.
The effort wasn't really there against Texas either, although their perimeter shots weren't falling.
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A 2 star kid isn't the best perimeter defender in the conference.
I know you are passionate about this, but they don't give kids 4 stars because they play tough D. They give the kids who average 25 a game the star rankings. Temple's athleticism isn't enough to contain those types of players.
Bost abused Temple last night off of the dribble.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:49 am to TigerRagAndrew
I guess we differ on what it takes to be a solid contributor. He was a two star out of high school but he's been much more beneficial to this team than many other players that have been rated higher.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:54 am to TigerRagAndrew
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Acie Law
During A&M's visit to the Pmac in in the 2006-2007 season, Law had a stellar performance going 1-11 from the field with 4 points and 3 turnovers.
In the NCAA tournament (2005-2006), Law had another great performance going 5-16 from the field and 1-4 from beyond the arc to go with 6 turnovers.
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However, I noticed Acie Law, Farmar, and Collison pretty much having their way with him.
Did he guard both Farmar and Collison at the same time? Would you care to cite some more examples? I can find numerous examples of him containing big-time scores like Downey, Lofton, etc. When you defend the best perimeter player every night, someone is going to get you sooner or later.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 11:56 am to Tiger Authority
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I guess we differ on what it takes to be a solid contributor. He was a two star out of high school but he's been much more beneficial to this team than many other players that have been rated higher.
Quoting my post above:
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He's a solid defensive contributor that had neither existing offensive skills nor the potential to improve them.
During our Final Four run, we noticed some things about Garrett. Nobody can question his effort or toughness, and this year he's put it together mentally.
However, his top-end athleticism just isn't there and he really is right there at a 2 star player. He has developed the ability to "get his own shot" in the SEC but can't finish on drives in the lane and struggles to hit open looks from 3. I just don't see a problem with criticizing his lack of offense. It's factual.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:01 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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It's factual.
Kind of like your claim that Temple had trouble containing Law?
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:01 pm to Stromile Swift
He is basically Xavier Whipple with AMAZING defense.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:11 pm to TigerRagAndrew
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However, his top-end athleticism just isn't there and he really is right there at a 2 star player.
I'll take a two star player like Temple every day of the week over five star guys such as Regis Koundja and Magnum Rolle. Again, he does so many other things that make up for his lack of offensive production. Like someone else pointed out, the lineup has plenty of scoring punch and Temple has the ability to defend and facilitate. Not everyone on the team has to be a superstar, and Temple is the type of player that every coach would love to have in their program for four years.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:14 pm to Stromile Swift
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I'll take a two star player like Temple every day of the week over five star guys such as Regis Koundja and Magnum Rolle. Again, he does so many other things that make up for his lack of offensive production. Like someone else pointed out, the lineup has plenty of scoring punch and Temple has the ability to defend and facilitate. Not everyone on the team has to be a superstar, and Temple is the type of player that every coach would love to have in their program for four years.
Exactly. I just want him to stop taking untimely 3's.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:29 pm to TigerRagAndrew
TigerRagAndrew, that's pretty BUSH league of you not to address the Acie Law topic.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:38 pm to Stromile Swift
Anybody hating on Temple has no idea how valuable he is for the LSU basketball team.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:40 pm to Stromile Swift
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I'll take a two star player like Temple every day of the week over five star guys such as Regis Koundja and Magnum Rolle. Again, he does so many other things that make up for his lack of offensive production. Like someone else pointed out, the lineup has plenty of scoring punch and Temple has the ability to defend and facilitate. Not everyone on the team has to be a superstar, and Temple is the type of player that every coach would love to have in their program for four years.
Totally agree ... Temple is a team player who understands his role. Every TEAM needs this type of player to succeed. Remember Ollie Brown from the '86 Final Four team? Couldn't score a lick, but he filled a role with rebounding and defense.
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:37 pm to Stromile Swift
I just got back from lunch where I watched the entire 1st half of the ATM Tournament game.
Please forgive me for not sitting by the computer long enough to compose this post in a timely fashion, but I wanted to rewatch at least the 1st half before responding.
The dude wasn't even guarded by Garrett in the 1st half, but he did go 2-6 or so from the field against Darrell and Ben Voogd... but most of the looks were open. I'll rewatch the 2nd half and comment later.
I had the distinct impression that he was able to do almost anything he wanted against LSU in the 2nd half of the game.
Please forgive me for not sitting by the computer long enough to compose this post in a timely fashion, but I wanted to rewatch at least the 1st half before responding.
The dude wasn't even guarded by Garrett in the 1st half, but he did go 2-6 or so from the field against Darrell and Ben Voogd... but most of the looks were open. I'll rewatch the 2nd half and comment later.
I had the distinct impression that he was able to do almost anything he wanted against LSU in the 2nd half of the game.
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 2/12/09 at 1:38 pm to Stromile Swift
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Kind of like your claim that Temple had trouble containing Law?
Again, I haven't been at the computer since around 12ish, but I was talking about his offense. Lame.
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