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re: The BCS vs Playoff Debate
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Nope. But in a playoff they'd have to do it 3 weeks in a row. That would be pretty damn impressive.
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Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:53 am to hojo
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It's the SEC. Brutal schedule. Go ahead.
Look I think the SEC is the best conference year and year out. But I am a little tired of people acting like the SEC is in a whole other league of the other BCS conferences when their OOC performance is often better, but rarely dominant compared to those conferences.
If the SEC is so damn good, they should be destroying OOC teams. And don't give me the SEC wears them out; 75% of OOC games are played in September.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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you will never have one of these embarrassments with the BCS
BOOM?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:55 am to usc6158
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12 games is more than enough to tell who is the best teams in college football where there really isn't much parity
the goal is not to reward the most deserving team, the goal is to reward the team that actually wins.
The phrase 'and that's why the play the game' has truth to it. Where as the BCS 'plays' games for you in a computer determining who plays for the title rather than a playoff to see who actually deserves to play there.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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you will never have one of these embarrassments with the BCS
no fluky bullshite in the BCS
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:57 am to hojo
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Nope. But in a playoff they'd have to do it 3 weeks in a row.
the #5 team in a 4 team playoff will not get the chance to do anything
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:57 am to Tiger HouTX
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Where as the BCS 'plays' games for you in a computer determining who plays for the title rather than a playoff to see who actually deserves to play there.
Do you have any idea how the BCS or computers work? Apparently not
Posted on 7/15/09 at 10:58 am to Tiger HouTX
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The phrase 'and that's why the play the game' has truth to it. Where as the BCS 'plays' games for you in a computer determining who plays for the title rather than a playoff to see who actually deserves to play there.
So is fresno state a deserving champion in CWS because they got really hot even after they sucked all year? frick no
also the BCS computers take into account all of the factors in being a "deserving" team
I don't understand how any LSU fans can be pissed at the BCS considering it's been an incredibly successful system for you guys
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:01 am to usc6158
I'm not sure what you mean by fluky bullshite--do you mean like when Ted Ginn got hurt on his td return against Florida the first play of the game? Would that be fluky bullshite? Fluky bullshite is part of the game, part of every game.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:02 am to hojo
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I'm not sure what you mean by fluky bullshite--do you mean like when Ted Ginn got hurt on his td return against Florida the first play of the game? Would that be fluky bullshite? Fluky bullshite is part of the game, part of every game.
which is why it's better to minimize it by using a BCS type system where objective facts drive the selection process of 2 deserving teams
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:04 am to usc6158
No, the BCS should just be a guide, a system used to give us a group of teams and let them play it out on the field. Once again, there's not now nor ever will be a formula that can ever give us the "best" 2 teams in anything.
Oh, and for the record, a playoff would have given us all by now a USC/LSU matchup at some point. I've been craving that game for years. It would be so intense.
Oh, and for the record, a playoff would have given us all by now a USC/LSU matchup at some point. I've been craving that game for years. It would be so intense.
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:05 am to usc6158
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So is fresno state a deserving champion in CWS because they got really hot even after they sucked all year? frick no
I haven't heard anyone advocating a 64 team playoff, so this argument is completely irrelevant.
Saying the BCS is a playoff is 100% incorrect. If the BCS is a playoff, then it's the only playoff I've heard of where you can go undefeated and still not win the title (e.g. Auburn and Utah (2x)).
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:08 am to tigers
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If the BCS is a playoff, then it's the only playoff I've heard of where you can go undefeated and still not win the title (e.g. Auburn and Utah (2x)).
would Utah have made a 4-team playoff last year?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:08 am to tigers
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Saying the BCS is a playoff is 100% incorrect. If the BCS is a playoff, then it's the only playoff I've heard of where you can go undefeated and still not win the title (e.g. Auburn and Utah (2x)).
Wait, so if we had an 8 team "playoff" and Tulane in 1998, or had Ball State gone undefeated last year and those teams didn't make the 8 team cut...then it still wouldn't be a playoff?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:16 am to lsumatt
i don't know a league in where every team in the league makes the playoff.
are you wanting every team to be in the playoff? is an 8 team playoff not better than no playoff at all?
are you wanting every team to be in the playoff? is an 8 team playoff not better than no playoff at all?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:17 am to lsumatt
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Wait, so if we had an 8 team "playoff" and Tulane in 1998, or had Ball State gone undefeated last year and those teams didn't make the 8 team cut...then it still wouldn't be a playoff?
You conveniently don't address Auburn. I do believe that an undefeated non-BCS school should have an opportunity to play for the title via a playoff. If you are a D1 school, and you don't lose a game, and don't get a chance to play for the title, then it is not a playoff.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:17 am to Tiger HouTX
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is an 8 team playoff not better than no playoff at all?
8 team playoff > old system
BCS > 8 team playoff by a mile though
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:18 am to tigers
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You conveniently don't address Auburn
1 example! in 10 years
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I do believe that an undefeated non-BCS school should have an opportunity to play for the title via a playoff.
at what cost
did BSU deserve to go over LSU in 2006?
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If you are a D1 school, and you don't lose a game, and don't get a chance to play for the title, then it is not a playoff.
what if there are 4 slots and 5 undefeated teams? or a 1-loss team who only lost to an undefeated team? what if there are 2, 1-loss teams who only lost to an undefeated team in the title game?
don't think it can happen? go look at 2004
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:19 am to tigers
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You conveniently don't address Auburn.
bullshite. Your argument was that any system that leaves out an undefeated team is not a playoff and I shot that down. Your argument wasn't about Auburn; auburn was simply an example for your point regarding undefeated teams.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 11:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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BCS > 8 team playoff by a mile though
Slo, obvioulsy, no one is going to change their opinion, but how can every other legit sport, whether college or otherwise have a playoff, not some computerized/polling format?
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