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re: The Jones hatefest
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:28 pm to tigerpawl
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:28 pm to tigerpawl
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All coachable. Similar to when CLM football was making 27 penalties a game. Hey.... were you Chairman of the Les Miles "10 wins" fan club?
Actually I was critical of CLM, because we had a constant top 10 recruiting class with the current stock of nfl players to back it up.
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:29 pm to karralum
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I have no comeback for the inbound plays comment lol.
Free throws seems to be more about nerves. In college you should already know how to hit the white box while deep bending of your knees. It's like not knowing how to catch as a football player.
I'll agree with you on the free throws.... either you can make them or you can't. You can improve that but it's more or less an individual skill. This is one of the things that the "low IQ" basketball fan doesn't understand. As a coach all you can do is have the team shoot free throws when tired to simulate in game situations as much as possible.... that and ask them to shoot free throws in their free time. No coach wants to devote too much valuable practice time to free throws.
With that being said.... yes there is some merit to the inbounds sequences. Over Jones's tenure I've yet to see a team struggle so much with inbounding the ball. To hell with actually scoring off an inbounds play I'd settle for anything other than hurling the ball 40 feet near halfcourt from the baseline to a "jump ball" scenario. They make it seem sooo difficult. So to your defense... no, we shouldn't fire him because he doesn't draw up good inbounds plays but it is certainly one of the things that's very characteristic of Johnny Jones coached teams.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:33 pm to karralum
Simmons was a great player nothing about last season is on him. He led the team in scoring, rebounding, assists, blocks, steals and FT attempts. He was the best player in the country by far and had plenty around him. What Johnny Jones did last season was one of the biggest failures in SPORTS HISTORY! He's been a failure since he's been here. Couldn't make the tourney with Johnny O and a good supporting cast couldn't make it with O'Bryant Mickey and Martin lol. 3 NBA post players in the SEC! I don't believe there's any coach I can think of who could do that.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:34 pm to karralum
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Why blame JJ
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Not to mention just not having talent
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Why blame JJ
Also, no mention of defense or lack thereof?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:34 pm to karralum
Ok Dale, we know he's your boy! But, he can't recruit talent like you and he's a much worse X's & O's coach than you. Bye Felicia
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:36 pm to karralum
Have a downvote
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:40 pm to setinways12
This is 100% wrong. Free throw shooting can def improve with proper technique. There are very few cases where either you can make em or you can't is a reality. Someone like Shaq yea his giant hands cause a problem but 90% of everyone els is capable of improving free throws. Checkout NBA players FT numbers compared to their college FT numbers usually they improve at a very high rate. And it's not a coincidence that every one of Jones teams have been horrible FT shooting teams it's a teachable skill.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:40 pm to Juan Betanzos
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Ok Dale, we know he's your boy! But, he can't recruit talent like you and he's a much worse X's & O's coach than you. Bye Felicia
So you do admit Dale had better talent?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:41 pm to karralum
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Why blame JJ
While I get what you are saying, he is the HC.
I really never understood the JJ hire other than the fact he played here and was from La. He was a average coach in a poor conference before coming to LSU.
I wonder how many times JA gets to crap out on coaching hires before he gets canned? It's a mystery to me as to why the man still has a job at LSU.
I am beginning to think he is the guy with the pictures!
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:42 pm to zsav77
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Seems you're a terrible poster on every subject
Says the person who contributes nothing to the subjects.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:47 pm to karralum
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Umm my quote that you quoted was about ben simmons. I know you are so anxious to disagree with me, just try to stay on task.
Right and I'm just cutting through the bullshite to get to the heart of your post. Which is also pure bullshite. This isn't an agree/disagree thing. If you think Jones is any better than a garbage coach, you are wrong. Not a debate.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:49 pm to karralum
Hopefully this is the last of the JJ defenders.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:04 pm to lsu2006
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Right and I'm just cutting through the bull shite to get to the heart of your post. Which is also pure bull shite. This isn't an agree/disagree thing. If you think Jones is any better than a garbage coach, you are wrong. Not a debate.
Ok name a good coach that you like at lsu. Now lets cut through some if your bs.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:04 pm to karralum
How many assistants, technical advisors and performance managers are there on JJ's staff?
When watching LSU play there is no indication any of these guys do anything at all. There are no plays, no defensive schemes, players seem to not change at all in body type, fitness is suspect, skills seem to deteriorate throughout the season, rotations don't seem considered, time outs are poorly used and motivation appears zero.
All above I would have thought are the domain of responsibility of the head coach. Many of these tasks would be delegated but at LSU they don't appear to be happening at all.
When JJ finally does get the axe and they pay him out at least then fire the rest of the support staff (whom I doubt would be on multi-year guaranteed contracts) to save some dough because they've had a free ride under JJ.
When watching LSU play there is no indication any of these guys do anything at all. There are no plays, no defensive schemes, players seem to not change at all in body type, fitness is suspect, skills seem to deteriorate throughout the season, rotations don't seem considered, time outs are poorly used and motivation appears zero.
All above I would have thought are the domain of responsibility of the head coach. Many of these tasks would be delegated but at LSU they don't appear to be happening at all.
When JJ finally does get the axe and they pay him out at least then fire the rest of the support staff (whom I doubt would be on multi-year guaranteed contracts) to save some dough because they've had a free ride under JJ.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:05 pm to karralum
Nearly every basketball coach LSU has had it took them time. Including the fan favorite Dale Brown.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:06 pm to karralum
quote:Johnny??
karralum
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:21 pm to s-man
Some of you are delusional, you are quick to criticize the op but can't name another LSU coach who has had quick success. You kerp talking about talent but are only bringing up guys who are struggling to make the rotation and or are on developmental rosters. Outside of stromile swift whose the last LSU basketball player to make a quick impact 2nd year or better since.
Brady had a roster full of nba players and they didn't win a title, shaq n jackson???
Brady had a roster full of nba players and they didn't win a title, shaq n jackson???
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:24 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:25 pm to karralum
Marcus thorton 2010 NBA draft. Brady made the Final 4 and 3 of the 5 starters from that team had NBA careers. As far as Jones his quick success is directly a product of the weakest schedules this school has ever seen. Empty wins.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:25 pm to karralum
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you are quick to criticize the op but can't name another LSU coach who has had quick success.
Trent Johnson won the SEC and a tournament game his first year.
Brady won a share of the SEC crown and made the sweet-16 his 3rd year (while the team was on pound-me-in-the-arse probation)
What else you got?
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