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Posted on 12/11/08 at 11:44 pm to GatorTrunk
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heat problems
That is a myth!
Did you not read the scientific study that BYU did that I posted earlier in the thread? Calling something a myth doesn't make it a myth. Maybe if Mythbusters would tackle this issue, would you believe them?
Posted on 12/11/08 at 11:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
"Football is meant to be played on grass"
it would be nice if we did. instead we get sand painted green
it would be nice if we did. instead we get sand painted green
Posted on 12/11/08 at 11:58 pm to LSUMJ
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it would be nice if we did. instead we get sand painted green
I'm not saying the grass is in good shape. We should give it another year to grow a root system and if that doesn't work, get new guys to take care of it. IMO under no circumstance should we put turf in Death Valley. When USC, Notre Dame, OSU, UGA, UF, etc., start using turf, I MIGHT reconsider my opinion.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 1:29 am to TheCaterpillar
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When USC, Notre Dame, OSU, UGA, UF, etc., start using turf, I MIGHT reconsider my opinion.
If those schools couldn't find someone to get it right after several years, they probably would consider field turf.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 2:07 am to thegrassman
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Ronnie Halliburton, director of athletic facilities and grounds
Dumba$$ along with Todd J.
Here we go again. It's 1:45 in the freakin AM and I've got to pipe in on yet another thread about that field.
I take it that this Ronnie Halliburton is the same RH that was a mediocre tight end from Texas that played for Curley Hallman. What the hell does Halliburton know about athletic turf and how did he get the job as Director of LSU Athletic Facilities? (Besides the obvious reasons) The dude sounds incompetent and a Grade A excuse maker, but he speaks the truth about the turf not having enough time to develop a strong root sysyem. That takes longer than 3 months. It's not that hard to grow athletic turf in the south, but the ability to do so has so far seemed to escape the grasp of the LSU athletic department. There are some gorgeous fields in the S.E.C. and across the South. Why it can't be done at LSU is a mystery. The only LOGICAL explanation, is that the people in charge of the field don't have an utter clue as to what they're doing. What happened to the guy from Mississippi State that was supposed to take over? (BTW, if any lurkers from the AD happen to read this, please have the Head Turf Manager send an e-mail to The Rant and explain in detail why there are so many problems every year with the turf. We'd all like to hear it from the horses mouth)
You can't just throw turf down there. You've got to have people that know the science and chemistry of athletic turf, know how to fertilize it, when and how much to irrigate and even how to mow it properly. (Yep, that can F it up too, if you don't know what you're doing)
I've suggested too on every thread about this, that if the LSUAD can't get it right, then just put Field Turf down. That would be sacrilege, but preferable than facing embarrassment every time we have a home game. Just go ahead and sink to the level of Ole Miss.
And, it's not only the grass, they can't even get the paint job on the field right either. The EYE is too small and not properly done. (Edges are not diffused out enough) The white border surrounding the field and those little high schoolish logos in the endzones look just as bad as does the turf. The whole thing is a JOKE. Looks like a bunch of third graders are in charge of every thing regarding that field.
Everybody that responded to this thread needs to contact Alleva about all this and DEMAND that something be done.........
Posted on 12/12/08 at 10:06 am to TigerBandAlumnus82
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And, it's not only the grass, they can't even get the paint job on the field right either. The EYE is too small and not properly done. (Edges are not diffused out enough) The white border surrounding the field and those little high schoolish logos in the endzones look just as bad as does the turf. The whole thing is a JOKE. Looks like a bunch of third graders are in charge of every thing regarding that field.
Do you ever have anything positive to say about LSU?
Posted on 12/12/08 at 1:00 pm to mikethetiger
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And if not? At what point when we as fans are being asked to pony up big dollar for facilities at LSU does the PLAYING SURFACE become important? What good are brand new HD scoreboards if the playing surface is unplayable?
This just cracks me up. First we have the pollyanna's crying about the video boards being too small. Then they complain when told that they would have to pony up more money to cover such upgrades. Now, they are installing a new video board and here we are with the next complaint. Maybe they shouldn't upgrade the video board then, so that the fans can't see in HD the unplayable field.
If, and hopefully never, but, if they do install fake turf, then what will the next complaint be about? Slippery fake turf when it rains or is humid?
I have a solution. Why don't the 2 teams just play the actual game in the indoor practice facility on the pristine fake turf, while they show it on the new super-duper huge HD screens for the 92000 fans gathered in Tiger Stadium.
First off, try and limit your complaints about what I post to what I actually post...not what someone else does. I've never once given a rat's arse about the freaking video screens. If I wanted to watch the game on TV, I'd stay home. I suggested in the one point you BOTHERED to address in my post that the FIELD is a little more important than the video screens...that maybe we'd be better off solving the field issues before we spend money on extra shite that at the end of the day doesn't matter.
As for what the next complaint will be...who knows. I do know what the current complaint is, and that's that the field has been HORRIBLE for going on a decade now. That this issues was brought up countless times during Saban's tenure, and each time one excuse after another was tossed out. Field Turf was addressed by Saban at the time and he was the one that suggested heat would be an issue. This is NOT a new issue. So before we worry about what the first complaint will be if what we do to fix the ongoing problem CAUSES a new problem, why don;t we try the fix first?
As I've said...LSU can't have it both ways. If they are going to use the excuse that the upper decks are largely to blame, then what? Remove the decks to grow real grass? If the decks aren't the problem, then the next LSU official that uses that excuse needs to be beaten.
Look...all things being equal I'd orefer real grass. But for nearly a decade now (and it may be longer, this has only been a burr in my saddle for that long) LSU has been unable to accomplish this feat. How many more "wait'til next year's" will we have to endure before there is a playable surface in Tiger Stadium? And, is the continual attempt at getting real grass to grow unsuccessfully better than putting in turf?
Posted on 12/12/08 at 1:02 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I just worry about the injuries on artificial turf, but maybe new turf is pretty safe nowadays. Maybe I just worry too much.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 2:28 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I suggested in the one point you BOTHERED to address in my post that the FIELD is a little more important than the video screens...that maybe we'd be better off solving the field issues before we spend money on extra shite that at the end of the day doesn't matter.
Did you read the article? It states what they are doing to address the current issue. Letting it get a full growing season for the roots to take hold, which in turn helps the turf from gettting torn up so much. Two years before that, they totally re-did the drainage and laid all new sod. To me, they ARE working on the problem. The 2 worst years were the 2005 season and this past season. The other season were average to above average as far as natural turf football fields. I will give them as long as it takes to find the "right" solution, which is not artificial turf, in my opinion.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 2:47 pm to philter
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When USC, Notre Dame, OSU, UGA, UF, etc., start using turf, I MIGHT reconsider my opinion.
OSU has AT.
I noticed a couple of other "big-time" programs have a field that doesn't hold up very well at the end of the season. One example would be Texas in their game against ATM. It looked rough and had plenty patches of sand/dirt mixed with clods of turf. It's not that big of a deal, it's football.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 2:58 pm to bgtiger
You would think that Louisana State University and AGRICULTURAL and Mechanical College would have people that know how to grow friggin grass.
Hell they got enough people up there finding new ways to kill and control it on the damn farm.
It's not rocket science. Go look at UGA's field or Auburn's field. Jeez guys this crap is old and needs to get fixed
Hell they got enough people up there finding new ways to kill and control it on the damn farm.
It's not rocket science. Go look at UGA's field or Auburn's field. Jeez guys this crap is old and needs to get fixed
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:02 pm to Tiger 79
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It's not rocket science. Go look at UGA's field or Auburn's field. Jeez guys this crap is old and needs to get fixed
Well, UGA and Auburn actually have seasons. It's much easier to control grass maturation when you know what kind of weather you're going to have in a 3-4 month span. Grass down here has ALWAYS been a bitch to maintain. It will have a full year of rooting this year and we open up on the road so we'll see how well it holds up.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:06 pm to LSUdm21
Grass grows on concrete bridges!
If the Ag Dept (which BTW I'm a graduate) can't figure this out. Go get Mo State or Auburn people to figure it out.
If the Ag Dept (which BTW I'm a graduate) can't figure this out. Go get Mo State or Auburn people to figure it out.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:10 pm to Tiger 79
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Grass grows on concrete bridges!
It's a little more complex to upkeep a football field with all the wear and tear it has on it. You should know that Ag Grad.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:14 pm to LSUdm21
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It's a little more complex to upkeep a football field with all the wear and tear it has on it. You should know that Ag Grad.
It was a metaphor!
Look you need heat water and fertilizer to grow grass. We got it all in BR. It's mostly always hot, it rains it's arse off and there is enough bullshite with the football program that we should never run out of fertilizer.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:19 pm to Tiger 79
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Look you need heat water and fertilizer to grow grass. We got it all in BR. It's mostly always hot, it rains it's arse off and there is enough bullshite with the football program that we should never run out of fertilizer.
I've never understood why they insist on putting that "carpet" type grass down. frick the looks. We played football in my front yard, cleats and all, every day for 15 years and that old school St. Augustine never budged. Plant that shite, cut it low and move on.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:22 pm to LSUdm21
No the Bermuda is the way to go. It's a "softer" grass and is very durable. They tried to address the problem last year when the re-did the turf and yes it will take some time to "catch hold" but Jeez Louise, like I said LSU is a friggin Ag College. This shouldn't be a damn issue
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:26 pm to Tiger 79
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No the Bermuda is the way to go. It's a "softer" grass and is very durable. They tried to address the problem last year when the re-did the turf and yes it will take some time to "catch hold" but Jeez Louise, like I said LSU is a friggin Ag College. This shouldn't be a damn issue
I know about the Bermuda, I was just messing with you my man. That's why I said we'll see how it does this year. People need to remember, they chemically killed the entire field after the spring game last year. Like a good gumbo, it just needs some time and loving.
Posted on 12/12/08 at 3:31 pm to Tiger 79
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LSU is a friggin Ag College.
That part of LSU is now the LSU AgCenter. I don;t think there is any involvement on their part with turf management in Tiger Stadium. It is handled by the Athletic Department and maybe LSU Landscape Services plays some role.
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