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re: Tim Williams on playing LSU
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:54 pm to Space Cowboy
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:54 pm to Space Cowboy
Dang you're a mad dude.
What if I told you that Nutts recruiting classes were better than Os? How's that make you feel?
What if I told you that Nutts recruiting classes were better than Os? How's that make you feel?
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:38 pm to GFunk
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This is because we had four guards starting on the OL with a Tackle playing Center.
This was because our Head Coach personally signed off on any offer on the OL Depth Chart.
And Les miles had dlinemen turned oline because Saban decided to not recruit the last two years.
Stewart, Hitt, Blackwell.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:42 pm to RedTigerRulz
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No you just answer and respond to each and every one with the same facts over and over and over again....as if that will somehow change the perception people have of Miles legacy or diminish the embarrassment of his untimely demise.
Just like you respond and join in on every thread bashing miles or in threads where he is brought up.
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diminish the embarrassment of his untimely demise.
Winning 10 games 4 of his last 5 years is in no way an embarrassment.
If thats what you call embarrassment then what do you call Ed Orgeron's career as a head coach?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:46 pm to sicboy
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And the big thing that people like rickdaddy ignore is that over and over Les made promises about changing up the offense that turned out to be a bunch of hot air.
I've repeatedly said its one of the reasons I wanted him gone. You can only lie about changing the offense so many times.
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, but after him almost losing his job last year you would have thought this time he would actually commit to it.
He tried passing more but Harris couldnt connect on easy passes.
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I was horrified at what I was watching during the Wisconsin game.
We passed 21 times and ran it 29.
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You can talk about bad gameplans all you want, but Les had cultivated a stubborn bad philosophy over his tenure and it had more than run it's cours
Again, I wanted him gone after a&m in 2015. That doesnt make me blind to the best tenure in lsu history.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:50 pm to Damone
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As a result he torpedoed an entire season and wasted the talents of numerous young players.
Blame FKing for that. Miles didnt make the decision to keep himself after 2015.
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He knew he could no longer compete with good program
Which programs? The programs like Bama and ohio state?
Because in the last 5 years of his tenure we were 2nd in the sec in wins.
It was time for Miles to go but let's no act like lsu wasnt the 2nd most consistent team in the sec west during the last 5 full years.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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worse coaching job...EO vs bama 2016 or CLM vs Bama 1-9-2012
About the same.
Miles easily had a more talented roster than O had last year but I also believe that Bama defense was better than last year's bama defense.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:01 pm to Space Cowboy
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Most coaches are always looking and searching for ways to improve, not Miles, he was fully content coasting in his gravy train job. The LSU program nonetheless was still strong enough to be able to produce an acceptable win-loss record despite the liability and excess baggage of Les Miles weighing it down. Getting rid of that loser and that dead weight was the best thing we could have done for LSU. Let's hope it wasn't too late.
I love when posters like you talk yourself into a corner without realizing it.
If Miles was the dead weight holding lsu back then why did you say we shouldnt expect O to win 10 or more games next year?
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Imagine what we will be able to do if we continue as usual fielding a strong defense, but from now on a strong defense with a strong offense.
Yeah I imagine that great coach will have the best win % in lsu history and one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history. Just imagine if we could ever get a lsu coach to achieve those numbers.That coach may have as many AP top 10 finishes ,in his 11 year tenure, tha the previous 40 years combined.
Wouldn't it be great for lsu to have a that kind of success during a coach's tenure?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:05 pm to Space Cowboy
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It was Les Miles and his idiotic Les Miles offense's fault.
Wow. You tout O for the offense breaking records yet blame Miles when the offense sucks against bama?
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idn't have to be that way, but with Les Miles and his immense stupidity, that's the way it was.
Its amazing how it was and is ok for you to make PERSONAL attacks against Miles and then get pissed when someone posts facts about Coach O.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:09 pm to RedTigerRulz
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I dont regurtitate the same tired information over and over hoping that it will change people's minds
I dont care if i change your mind. I just like to apply facts to an argument.
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I'm defending the current coach...
Miles accomplishments are facts. Facts are in no way a defense or bashing a coach. When i post Miles' win % and final rankings im not giving a subjective opinion. Giving subjective opinions is defending and bashing a coach.
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See the difference meathead
The difference is youre using your opinion when discussing a coach that hasnt accomplished anything at lsu.
I'm stating facts about Miles tenure.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:09 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Miles would have fked the pooch as well against Bama and anyone who says different hasnt watched any LSU-Bama games in recent years.
Why are we comparing O to miles? One of the main reasons we fired miles is because he couldn't beat Bama.
We may not have won against them with a different game plan. But Damn at least try something that worked a few weeks earlier in the year.
No idea why we keep trying to convince y'all how bad of a hire it was. I guess we have no choice but to see how it plays out.
But please for the love of god, if it goes South I hope we pull the plug quickly.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:12 pm to Space Cowboy
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So go fly a kite you doofus and stop giving me brain damage with your immense stupidity.
I think it's too late for that brain damage thingy. Sorry about that.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:14 pm to Damone
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So people don't forget the amount of talent he squandered at LSU
Squandered compared to who?
If you gave a better tactician the talent Miles had then yeah they could habe done better. But the mistake yoire making is that youre acting like its a given that the tactician couldve recruited at the same level as miles.
There are very few elite recruiter and elite game day coaches. That's what makes them the best coaches in cfb.
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and that he ended his tenure as an embarrassing failure.
Embarrassing? His last 5 full seasons have more top 16 finishes than Saban had ranked finishes during his tenure at lsu.
Embarrassing is having losing seasons and multiple unranked finishes.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:17 pm to nvasil1
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be fair, Gray has a point here though. It's mostly Les-bashers who are still bringing him up 8 months later. Otherwise, Rickdaddy wouldn't feel obligated to keep posting the same things over and over
There is a reason I never say Miles was an elite coach. That is subjective. His accomplishments are not.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:22 pm to Gray Tiger
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Because we don't feel driven to show up here day after day just to insult some one who gave more than you ever will to LSU
Its pretty clear that the miles haters are the ones that cant let go.
No one that's labeled a pro miles poster EVER starts a thread about him or brings him up in threads that have nothing to do with miles and was created to post some thing positive about lsu.
For example: start a thread about all the great nfl players from lsu and watch all the miles haters turn it into a bash miles thread.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:24 pm to Space Cowboy
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Not to mention, that most O haters vilify and demonize O for that poor record at Ole Miss as if it was all of his fault. However, he inherited a team totally devoid of talent and like Charlie Strong at Texas had to rebuild the team from the ground floor up.
That shite coach Miles took over a far worse situatuon than Coach O had at ole miss and miles had them winning 8 &9 games.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:28 pm to Space Cowboy
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Everybody loses during the early years of a complete rebuild
I love when posters like you talk yourself into a corner.
Les miles took over a program that was coming off of probation and had 1 winning season in the previous 12 years and had them winning 8 & 9 games.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:32 pm to Space Cowboy
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Explain to me how O’s stint at Ole Miss was a failure dingbat?
Holy shite.
Ok here it goes.....
Derek mason at vandy won as sec games in 2016 than Coach O did in his entire tenure at ole miss.
Are you suggesting Vandy is in a better situation than Ole miss in 2005?
Ole miss was 2 years removed from a 10 win season.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:35 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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That shite coach Miles took over a far worse situatuon than Coach O had at ole miss and miles had them winning 8 &9 games
Plus, you would think after 2 of O's elite recruiting classes, his 3rd year would've shown substantial improvement. How did his 3rd year go again?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Wow. I probably shouldn't have replied to so many posts.
Its hard to not respond when we have posters saying the worst tenure in ole miss history somehow isnt a failure.
Its hard to not respond when we have posters saying the worst tenure in ole miss history somehow isnt a failure.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Actually you won't find one at LSU with a better W% since facemasks.
There is a reason I never say Miles was an elite coach.
Depends on your metric for elite I guess.
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