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re: Tim Williams on playing LSU
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I love when posters like you talk yourself into a corner without realizing it.
If Miles was the dead weight holding lsu back then why did you say we shouldnt expect O to win 10 or more games next year?
I’m glad you love it moonbat, since I never ever said that or anything like that. Not unless someone signed in as me as said it. Man…whatever you are smoking I want some.
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That coach may have as many AP top 10 finishes ,in his 11 year tenure, tha the previous 40 years combined.
I guess you are talking about your idol Les Miles, since I know how delusional you are and how in love with him you are.
Anyway, your idol Les Miles is one of the luckiest human beings on the planet, as Les Miles, comes into the LSU program after Nick Saban had conveniently already recruited a national championship team and had it stockpiled up for him in our coffers all ready to go. Imagine if coach O had been so lucky when he accepted the Ole Miss job. Some people just have all the luck.
Then despite the extreme level of talent inherited, Miles blows games in 2005, like a 21-point halftime lead at home to a Tennessee team that only won five games the whole season. He did it again in 2006, keeping us out of the National Title game with what was probably our best team in decades. In 2007, he blew games again and took us out of the national title hunt another time, but somehow a very unlikely fluke of a miracle happened and we miraculously ended up in the title game anyway and easily won.
Nonetheless, none of Miles’s success early on or late, for that matter, was due to Miles. In fact, he couldn’t even figure out how to manage a damn clock and still can’t to this day. Instead, it was all due to the strength of the LSU football program, it’s excellent facilities, and its excellent location in the Mecca of college football recruiting, and our program was mostly built by Nick Saban before he left for Miami. Indeed, LSU won despite the excess baggage and excess liability of Les Miles, and the best thing that could have happened last season was getting rid of that dead weight and replacing him with a competent head coach like coach O. Hallelujah.
Meanwhile, like a loon, you misrepresent O’s stint at Ole Miss as being a complete and utter failure. Nonetheless, O was hired to rebuild the Ole Miss football program from scratch after it had been decimated by David Cutcliffe. Sort of like Charlie Strong was hired to rebuild the Texas football program after it had been decimated by Mack Brown too.
O signed a four-year contract to do it, just like Charlie Strong signed a four-year deal to do it at Texas too. However, after three years the Ole Miss Athletic Department got cold feet and fired O, just like the Texas Athletic Department got cold feet and fired Strong at the end of the season last year.
Then Houston Nutt gets hired at Ole Miss, comes in and immediately wins with coach O’s players in what would have been coach O’s fourth year of his contract. So, we will see if Tom Herman will be able to win immediately with Charlie Strong’s players next season in what would have been Strong’s fourth year of his contract. If he doesn’t, then that means that Strong didn’t do as good of a job as O did at Ole Miss.
In fact, in the three years’ you vilify and demonize O for as being a complete and utter failure at Ole Miss, the truth is he was very successful because he had successfully rebuilt the Ole Miss football program from scratch exactly like he was hired to do. Indeed, he did exactly what he set out to do. However, he wasn’t able to enjoy the fruits of his labor because the Ole Miss Athletic Department got cold feet and fired him and then hired Houston Nutt.
Meanwhile, Nutt comes in and wins immediately at Ole Miss for as long as O’s players remain. However, once O’s players graduate and split the scene, the Ole Miss program goes straight downhill so fast it makes your head spin.
Indeed, Hugh Freeze who was there working for O at the time, says that the Ole Miss Athletic Department made a very big mistake when they fired O and hired Houston Nutt to replace him, since if they would have kept O for his final year of his contract, they would have learned that O had indeed rebuilt the program and the program would never have ever gone back downhill again like it inevitably did under Nutt.
Meanwhile, like a loon, you always cite O’s win-loss record while at Ole Miss as proof that O is a complete and utter failure as a head coach. However, the truth is no one could have won with Cutcliffe’s players, which is why O was hired, to begin with in the first place to rebuild from scratch the very decimated Ole Miss football program. You anti O moonbats don’t have the first freaking clue what you idiots are talking about.
Anyway, Ole Miss’s loss is LSU’s gain. Meanwhile, Les Miles still can’t find a new job because no one will touch him with a ten-foot pole. Obviously, because they aren't nearly as dumb as you idiots are.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Instead of replying to each post individually, is there any way you can make just one post expounding on how great you believe Les Miles to be?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow. You tout O for the offense breaking records yet blame Miles when the offense sucks against bama?
I touted O for the offense breaking records? Really, when? What are you talking about? Meanwhile, I blame Miles for the offense sucking against everyone not only Alabama nearly the entire time he was here, because the offense sucked nearly the entire time he was here.
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Its amazing how it was and is ok for you to make PERSONAL attacks against Miles and then get pissed when someone posts facts about Coach O.
Don’t humor yourself, you moonbat, you couldn’t recognize a fact even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye. By the way, setting the record straight doesn’t constitute making personal attacks. I know you love him and all of that, but I never make personal attacks against Miles. Indeed, I actually like the dude as a human being, but not as a coach because as a coach he sucked to high heaven.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:09 pm to Space Cowboy
Listen, I'm not gonna pretend I know the history of what happened with coach O at Mississippi, but I know from him admitting it that he tried to do everything himself while there and that was a big mistake. He's no offensive guru for sure, he hired Freeze, but had him doing something else I believe instead of running the offense. Orgeron said he learned from that experience and now fully well knows to let his coordinators do their jobs without interference from him. He did a great job stocking Ole Piss with topnotch recruits, but did a lousy job overall as a headcoach there which is why he was let go. Same thing with Strong, just a lousy job as a headcoach, but we'll see how good of a job he did as a recruiter now that Herman has taking over. And you're absolutely right about Miles should have won a NC his very first year. He should have gone unbeaten, but lets a inferior Tenn team led by a Clausen brother who was a backup at LSU come back in the second half to give them their only defeat. Then they go to the SECCG and get blown out by a Georgia team that was scared to death of LSU. I know because I lived there at the time and all the sports radio shows there would talk all the time about how powerful a team LSU is and how this game will be a rout. Lol They were right about picking the rout, it was just the team that they picked to get routed that they weren't right about! lol
Man, if Les Miles was just a HC that was openminded and up to date on how modern college football was gonna be played. He would have left LSU as a legend would probably 3 to 4 NC to his credit. shite, Oklahoma State became a much better team after he departed from there.
Man, if Les Miles was just a HC that was openminded and up to date on how modern college football was gonna be played. He would have left LSU as a legend would probably 3 to 4 NC to his credit. shite, Oklahoma State became a much better team after he departed from there.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I love when posters like you talk yourself into a corner.
Les miles took over a program that was coming off of probation and had 1 winning season in the previous 12 years and had them winning 8 & 9 games.
I like how you always say you love it when posters like me talk myself into a corner nearly every post you make because we or at least I have never talked myself into a corner yet. Funny...what an ignoramus you are.
Indeed, Oklahoma State hardly ever had winning seasons. Nonetheless, Miles’s stint at Oklahoma State was accomplished largely with the previous coach’s recruits, and once Miles recruits started to play the team started going back downhill.
In fact, when Gundy took over after Miles left and with Miles’ players, he went 4 and 7, before bringing it back up to 7 and 6, but that was the best he could do until his own recruits finally kicked in and started playing.
Not only that, but Mike Gundy was glad to see Miles go because Miles would never let Gundy operate the offense like he wanted to run it. Which, of course, as we all know now is a trademark of Miles’ tenure at LSU too, which finally led thankfully to his long overdue demise.
Not to mention, that Gundy says he was thrilled when Miles left for LSU, again because Miles would not let him run his offense. Meanwhile, hindsight proves that Gundy’s offenses were always astronomically far better than Mile’s piss poor offenses.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:22 pm to Space Cowboy
Mike Gundy would have been a damn good hire by Skip Bertman who obviously was blind when he hired Miles instead. Haven't a clue what he was looking at if at all he studied Oklahoma State before he hired Miles. lol Imagine the LSU offense if Gundy was running it with the kind of talent that LSU regularly gets. Absolute blow outs! And he would have probably said that famous "I'm a man" quote while at LSU! Lmao!
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Holy shite.
Ok here it goes.....
Derek mason at vandy won as sec games in 2016 than Coach O did in his entire tenure at ole miss.
Are you suggesting Vandy is in a better situation than Ole miss in 2005?
Ole miss was 2 years removed from a 10 win season.
Man…you are a bona fide/certified mega idiot through and through. Indeed, it’s hard to imagine how ignorant you are.
Anyway, Derek Mason replaced James Franklin who wasn’t fired like David Cutcliffe was at Ole Miss after he had totally decimated their football program. In fact, James Franklin, during his three-year stint at Vanderbilt, had been Vanderbilt’s most successful head football coach in history, which is why he was scooped up by Penn State to rebuild their declining football team.
In fact, Penn State went 11 & 3 last season and several prognosticators are picking them to win it all this upcoming season. In fact, during Franklin’s final season at Vanderbilt many talent evaluators were considering him to be the best new football head coach to come around in a long time. I think he has proven his worth and proved those talent evaluators were correct.
As for as Derek Mason goes, considering the fact that he inherited a James Franklin team, as opposed to a totally decimated Ole Miss team that had been run into the dirt by David Cutcliffe, he has proven to be a major disappointment.
Anyway, this upcoming season will be his fourth, so it will be interesting to see how well Mason does this season with primarily his own players compared to O’s fourth year at Ole Miss with primarily his own players too. I must confess I don’t have a lot of confidence that Mason will do well at all. In fact, most of the projections I have seen show Vanderbilt finishing in 6th place in the East. While O’s fourth year at Ole Miss finished with 9 victories under Nutt, who is not nearly the coach O is.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:11 pm to Space Cowboy
Do you believe in answering people, man?? Or are you that got that fixated on RickDaddy?? shite's ridiculous, fricking forget about it! Lmao
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:17 pm to tubucoco
Of course, coach O admits he made stupid mistakes, as he is human and as open as a book. Nonetheless, all first-time head coaches are going to make their fair share of stupid mistakes, just like everybody does. However, most people learn from our stupid mistakes. In fact, learning from our own stupid mistakes makes us learn better. Coach O has obviously learned from his own stupid mistakes.
Most coaches today are always trying to learn and incorporate new things into their schemes to attempt to gain an upper hand. Not Les Miles, with Les Miles we got the same exact antiquated offense year in and year out and no matter who was the offensive coordinator. It was utterly absurd that he lasted at LSU for as long as he did.
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if Les Miles was just a HC that was openminded and up to date on how modern college football
Most coaches today are always trying to learn and incorporate new things into their schemes to attempt to gain an upper hand. Not Les Miles, with Les Miles we got the same exact antiquated offense year in and year out and no matter who was the offensive coordinator. It was utterly absurd that he lasted at LSU for as long as he did.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:19 pm to tubucoco
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Mike Gundy would have been a damn good hire by Skip Bertman who obviously was blind when he hired Miles instead. Haven't a clue what he was looking at if at all he studied Oklahoma State before he hired Miles. lol Imagine the LSU offense if Gundy was running it with the kind of talent that LSU regularly gets. Absolute blow outs! And he would have probably said that famous "I'm a man" quote while at LSU! Lmao!
I totally concur.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:25 pm to Space Cowboy
Stopping stressing over RickyD, brah, he gets into it with everybody. He thinks that he's a kind of a know it all type, but he's alright, well, sometimes anyways. Lol Yep, and you are right, everybody does make mistakes and learns from it, apparently, except Ole Les as he's as stubbornly muleheaded as they come. It cost him his job because he couldn't change, a damn shame.
Oh, and he lasted that long because he won games, don't you know?? Lol Apparently, lots of games. lol
Oh, and he lasted that long because he won games, don't you know?? Lol Apparently, lots of games. lol
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:42 pm to boxcarbarney
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Instead of replying to each post individually, is there any way you can make just one post expounding on how great you believe Les Miles to be?
If I was CLM & had over $20 million living in LA, I'd gladly pay a tard $2k/month to fight for my name on the Rant
Posted on 5/10/17 at 7:47 pm to Space Cowboy
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Space Cowboy
Since you said I was retarded, can you comment on my post about O vs Nutt recruiting at OM.
Also interested in why O didn't improve by his 3rd year...even after his amazing recruiting classes.
You also skipped over my post about cutcliffes recruiting his last 3 years at OM. Since he very obviously didn't leave them 'decimated', I'm just wondering why you keep saying that when it's proven false.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:25 pm to SportTiger1
Why do we give a flying frick about what a traitor POS bama paid player said about LSU? frick him and the horse he rode in on. If he blows out his knee in training camp and ends up homeless in the streets why should we care?
He needs to worry about his own future
He needs to worry about his own future
Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:26 pm to TutHillTiger
And that point has been obviously to 6 year old girls watching the game
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:03 pm to BilJ
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that interview was so terrible.
frick Tim Williams. And what a dogshit terrible move inviting him on the show. This guy spurned his home state and was a big reason our biggest rival continues to own us.
One of the consequences of that move by Williams is that he isn't supposed to be treated nicely when he comes home. Getting endorsement deals from local companies and invited on local sports radio shows. And yet T-Bob and Culotta invite him on and all have a good laugh about how badly he and Alabama whipped our arse for 4 years. Pathetic.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:28 pm to PhiTiger1764
Did they ask Williams how does it feel to drop out of the first round ...then the second...to the third...due to "off the field" issues at Bama?
I mean, if he can throw stones at our glass house, I am sure he can handle a few thrown at him right?
Did they have the balls to ask the hard questions or did they just do what Williams' agent told them to do? Figured.
I mean, if he can throw stones at our glass house, I am sure he can handle a few thrown at him right?
Did they have the balls to ask the hard questions or did they just do what Williams' agent told them to do? Figured.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 12:54 am to Madking
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still say Miles didn't win his 07 title with Sabans players that's a double standard.
What? I've never denied that 2007 has some Saban recruits.
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tw coach Os 3 seasons at Ole Miss weren't close to the worst era
It most certainly is the worst TENURE in ole miss history.
He has the worst win % of any ole miss coach that has coached more than 10 games in their career at ole miss.
He has the worst conf win% of any ole miss coach to coach at least 10 games in their career at ole miss.
So yes it's the worst tenure in ole miss history.
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act you are shitting on him and you're using false info and nothing but opinion to do it.
What would you call the lowest win% of any ole miss coach to have coaches 10 games.
What would you call the lowest in conf win% of any ole miss coach to coach 10 games?
Posted on 5/11/17 at 12:55 am to RedTigerRulz
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Getting fired 4 games into a season is embarrassing. If you dont think it is, I cant help you.
You do realize that 90% of all coaches will get fired, right?
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