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Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:59 pm to chilge1
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Well, for starters, Larry Coker won the championship in his first year with players that he neither recruited nor developed while Miles won it in his third.
In that aspect, it would be more appropriate to compare miles to other coaches who won it their third year, dontcha think?
Meyer, Tressel, Saban....
They don't understand this. They believe 2 things:
1. All players of the former coach must be "Purged" from the team, before any "True" coaching evaluation can take place. This is both completely Stupid & Flawed.
So essentially 5 years after a coach is hired..they can start to evaluate his worth.
2. Can't play Seniors - forget any kind experience & technique, gotta put the hot shot Freshman no matter what. Of course this means NO NFL drafted players...but they haven't thought that far ahead. And if the Freshman doesn't perform like Leonard Marshall or Glenn Dorsey, right away, he is considered a failure &/or not getting taught the proper technique.
Ah....the poor Sabanistas
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:01 pm to tigerswin03
quote:all you have to do is watch the all access to the super bowl to see how dumb comparing these to is. miles can't get coherent thoughts out and blows at clock management. sean knows everything going on in a game and runs one of the best 2 min offenses in the league.
sean payton went 7-9 then 8-8 and some of these same people were calling for his job
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:02 pm to wryder1
Maybe as a "players best friend's coach" ????
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:02 pm to Sammich
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2. Can't play Seniors - forget any kind experience & technique, gotta put the hot shot Freshman no matter what. Of course this means NO NFL drafted players...but they haven't thought that far ahead. And if the Freshman doesn't perform like Leonard Marshall or Glenn Dorsey, right away, he is considered a failure &/or not getting taught the proper technique
This is what I find most comical. Recruitniks shitting themselves over whether or not Ware is going to be redshirted because he's heads better than Murphy, a senior, Ridley a solid performer, and Ford, the shothot from last year.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:04 pm to Choctaw
quote:miles did lose control in 08 when we went on that late season skid. after the bama game we gave up
Miles has never lost complete control of his team and had 10+ players suspended or arrested in one season
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:05 pm to ayoforyayo
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miles can't get coherent thoughts out
Anywhere Miles is quoted, his words are not difficult to comprehend by anyone other than someone who is specifically looking to criticize him.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:06 pm to ayoforyayo
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late season skid
frustration on the field <<<<<<<< the entire team getting arrested
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:07 pm to chilge1
right he was completely coherent after the ole miss game.
id still like to know why 17-9 and 1-8 vs the top 25 the last 2 years is acceptable at LSU.
id still like to know why 17-9 and 1-8 vs the top 25 the last 2 years is acceptable at LSU.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:08 pm to chilge1
try giving up on the field. they didn't even have the will to play against ole miss in 08. one of the saddest displays ive ever seen in tiger stadium. im more worried about on field results than arrest.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:09 pm to ayoforyayo
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id still like to know why 17-9 and 1-8 vs the top 25 the last 2 years is acceptable at LSU.
And I'd like to know how forming an argument by grouping the last two years and ignoring the prior three and failing to acknowledge the improvement is acceptable at the Rant.
7-1
6-2
6-2
3-5
5-3
If you'll notice, only one of those years is significantly different from the others...
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:09 pm to chilge1
Miles had a pretty nice run for three years. 2 losses in each season, but still, a nice run.
His teams played tough defense and took chances on offense in order to win.
Ever since RP left, Miles has appeared out of sync. I am not sure that these two things are related, but they might be. I really think that Miles had built the team around RP being at LSU until 2010. That's why he gave the kids soooo many chances. When RP left, I think Miles was left without a plan, and Gary isn't the kind of coach who can turn lemons into lemon-aid. On a good day, Gary will make a good offense average, so give him a inexperienced QB and Gary made a mess of it.
His teams played tough defense and took chances on offense in order to win.
Ever since RP left, Miles has appeared out of sync. I am not sure that these two things are related, but they might be. I really think that Miles had built the team around RP being at LSU until 2010. That's why he gave the kids soooo many chances. When RP left, I think Miles was left without a plan, and Gary isn't the kind of coach who can turn lemons into lemon-aid. On a good day, Gary will make a good offense average, so give him a inexperienced QB and Gary made a mess of it.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:11 pm to ayoforyayo
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im more worried about on field results than arrest.
That both shows that you have no respect for the university, the team, and the players and that arrests are not a concern for this program.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:13 pm to chilge1
i care about wins plain and simple that is what miles is paid to do. arrest can be swept under the rug not living up to all the talent we have can't
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:13 pm to ayoforyayo
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im more worried about on field results than arrest.
1. This is a ridiculous statement
2. they go hand in hand....ask Larry Coker
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:15 pm to chilge1
if he leaves after winning the bcs this year.i just want to say thank you les and i know in my heart that michigan will come calling.all i can say les follow yourn dream.michigan gets a great coach. 
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:15 pm to Choctaw
not really uf has plenty of arrest yet they seem to manage just fine.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:15 pm to ayoforyayo
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arrest can be swept under the rug
Arrests are a source of shame and ridicule and offer up a hundred times more proof that a coach can't control his team than a lack of on-field production. In fact, I'd say that being able to keep everyone out of trouble while the team was sagging indicates Miles has a greater grasp on his team than most imagine.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:16 pm to tigermike200444
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if he leaves after winning the bcs this year.i just want to say thank you les and i know in my heart that michigan will come calling.all i can say les follow yourn dream.michigan gets a great coach.
The best thing that can happen for him and what 80% of LSU fans deserve.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:17 pm to chilge1
well i guess we should just pay him 4mil a year to baby sit. Hell as long as no one gets arrested who cares that we have a 2 game losing streak to ole miss bc we can't do simple things like call a time out before 20 seconds runs off the clock and we can't prepare for situations that will happen in a game. its all good no one gets arrested and that means way more than wins
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