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re: Who will be the starting QB vs. Oregon?
Posted on 1/31/11 at 2:16 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Posted on 1/31/11 at 2:16 pm to Lonnie4LSU
We're just gonna have to wait for spring to roll around. I've said before that I have no problem with the older and more experienced QB starting given that the performance on the practice field is not that noticeable. However, if Mettenberger is clearly better than JJ than it would be a disservice to the entire team to start JJ. It goes against the golden rule of playing and coaching a team sport: Do what's best for the team.
Hypothetically, how would you feel if you were a player (especially a defensive one) playing your arse off and watching a sub-par passing game transpire when you know that there is a guy who has been performing better in practice that is sitting on the bench.
If LSU wasn't expected to do well next season (lots of seniors graduating or something like that) then, as a fan, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it anyway. However, after watching this past season and realizing that QB was the sole position that held LSU back from possibly beating Auburn and Arkansas, it makes whoever starts at QB that much more vital.
Hypothetically, how would you feel if you were a player (especially a defensive one) playing your arse off and watching a sub-par passing game transpire when you know that there is a guy who has been performing better in practice that is sitting on the bench.
If LSU wasn't expected to do well next season (lots of seniors graduating or something like that) then, as a fan, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it anyway. However, after watching this past season and realizing that QB was the sole position that held LSU back from possibly beating Auburn and Arkansas, it makes whoever starts at QB that much more vital.
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Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:11 pm to UGATiger26
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realizing that QB was the sole position that held LSU back from possibly beating Auburn and Arkansas,
I agree fully. I mean JJ just didn't cover the pass well or tackle Cam in the open field.
Thanks for being a perfect rantardo.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:14 pm to Uncommon Cents
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rantardo
Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:14 pm to New Boy
stephen rivers
Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:27 pm to Uncommon Cents
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I agree fully. I mean JJ just didn't cover the pass well or tackle Cam in the open field.
Thanks for being a perfect rantardo.
Yeah, because scoring 25 points on a team that Arkansas scored 43 on and had a backup QB throw for 332 on is inconceivable.
You just do this shite for fun don't you? I'll be sure to say a prayer for you tonight that you are not this dumb.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:30 pm to UGATiger26
I honestly believe that the WR's have no confidence in JJ...even with byrd twittering about lsu winning the naty with mett as a qb just shows that he knows and probably has spoken to all of our WR's....I hope this wakes JJ up and he becomes what he was suppose to be but I just dont see it happening, he has his games or two but he has more of the awful games than any.....
Posted on 1/31/11 at 4:32 pm to UGATiger26
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how would you feel if you were a player (especially a defensive one) playing your arse off and watching a sub-par passing game transpire when you know that there is a guy who has been performing better in practice that is sitting on the bench
This does not need to be a hypothetical question-ask any of our defensive players from this past year. Or our recievers that were at times openly disgusted at being missed so badly during the games.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:17 pm to Commando
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This does not need to be a hypothetical question-ask any of our defensive players from this past year.
You have done this? Tell us what and who.
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Or our recievers that were at times openly disgusted at being missed so badly during the games.
They told you this?
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:24 pm to UGATiger26
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You just do this shite for fun don't you?
Why do YOU do it? Are you under the delusion that you actually know anytrhing about football? Are you under the delusion that what you post has any impact except to follow along with the crowd because you are incapable of any independent thought?
How much intelligence does it require to post the same old shite over and over and over? Here's an idea. Have an idea of your own.
If you don't think that defensive mistakes didn't play a serious factor in the losses at Arkansas and Auburn you are completely on another planet.
If your inane try at analysis had any consistancy to it, why did Alabama, who everybody agrees had a better QB lose to Auburn?
Just keep on repeating what makes you feel like you are smart.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:25 pm to Uncommon Cents
so just being different makes you right huh?
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:33 pm to UGATiger26
I think if Les decides JJ will start. Mett could be the second coming of Bert Jones and still not get the chance this year
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:33 pm to UGATiger26
Nope. I just happen to have more trust in the professional coaching staff, and I don't see the value in spending day after day after day cruicfying JJ. This kid has given more to LSU than all of you internet cowboys ever have.
He led LSU to 11 wins this year. Which of you rantardoes can make that fu cking claim?
I know that somewhere back in the deep dark recesses of your pitiful egoes, you feel like criticizing him makes you feel more manly.
That's the pity.
He led LSU to 11 wins this year. Which of you rantardoes can make that fu cking claim?
I know that somewhere back in the deep dark recesses of your pitiful egoes, you feel like criticizing him makes you feel more manly.
That's the pity.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:37 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Are you under the delusion that you actually know anytrhing about football?
Yeah, I actually do know stuff about football. Just because I am not a coach or college/professional player does not preclude me from knowing about or understanding the sport.
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How much intelligence does it require to post the same old shite over and over and over? Here's an idea. Have an idea of your own.
OMG!!! you're right! Just because I agree with something that has already been said, I must be some mindless lemming incapable of any independent thought and destined to follow the masses off a cliff in the near future.
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If you don't think that defensive mistakes didn't play a serious factor in the losses at Arkansas and Auburn you are completely on another planet.
You're the one on another planet. Are you kidding me with this? The following are facts:
# of teams that held Auburn to less points than LSU- 2
# of teams that scored more on Auburn than LSU- 10
Who do you think did their job better? The offense? or the defense? Damn, if LSU won a game 3-0 you would probably say that JJ led them to the victory.
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If your inane try at analysis had any consistancy to it, why did Alabama, who everybody agrees had a better QB lose to Auburn?
Auburn scored more than they did apparently.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:52 pm to UGATiger26
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Auburn scored more than they did apparently.
How can that be? I mean Alabama had a a good QB. How could Alabama not score more points?
[quote]Yeah, I actually do know stuff about football. Just because I am not a coach or college/professional player does not preclude me from knowing about or understanding the sport.
More than the professional coaching staff at LSU?
Really?
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OMG!!! you're right! Just because I agree with something that has already been said, I must be some mindless lemming incapable of any independent thought and destined to follow the masses off a cliff in the near future.
Ok. If you say so. Makes you feel good to be part of a lynch mob doesn't it?
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# of teams that held Auburn to less points than LSU- 2
And they are? And their seasonal records? How many did Kentucky score. You want to trade for their record?
Excuse me but wasn't the Oregon QB supposed to be some sort of world beater and they scored how many? 2 more than LSU? Your analysis fails. AGAIN
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# of teams that scored more on Auburn than LSU- 10
How many had better records than LSU had? Back to Alabama, would you have LSU score as many as Alabama did and still lose?
Maybe you would.
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Who do you think did their job better? The offense? or the defense? Damn, if LSU won a game 3-0 you would probably say that JJ led them to the victory.
Yep, because what counts is the WIN. That's why they play the game. It doesn't matter how many points are scored. One more is all you need. If LSU scores 50 points and loses 51-50, you would love that wouldn't you?
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:01 pm to Uncommon Cents
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LSU scores 50 points and loses 51-50, you would love that wouldn't you?
That would more support your argument that the LSU defense lost us games this year. Look at the whole picture. How many games was the offense just horrid?
Vandy, McNeese, WVU are some that come off the top of my head. With those terrible missed tackles in the Auburn game, we only lost by seven points. Are you telling me in your infinite wisdom, that a little more offensive firepower wouldn't have changed the games. A reliable offense also allows the DC (which Chavis has alluded to this in many interviews), to be more aggressive. You're going to be hesitant to give up any points when your offense has no consistency.
I know it's fun to play devil's advocate but 107th in passing should tell you something.
This post was edited on 1/31/11 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:04 pm to jackson123
Mett
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:08 pm to Uncommon Cents
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And they are? And their seasonal records? How many did Kentucky score. You want to trade for their record?
What's that about repeating the same shite over and over again? Why do you keep saying this? It is a completely non-sensical argument. Yeah, UK scored 37 on Auburn. Would I trade seasons? No. Probably because UK also allowed about 28 points/game.
Offense and defense is not a friggin zero-sum game. It's not as if the offense being better makes the defense worse. Speaking of defense, why do insist on pissing on LSU's? They were pretty damn good. Like I said, 25 points against Auburn possibly could've sealed the deal. That's a stat that 10 of Auburn's opponents would have loved to have had.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:10 pm to jackson123
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Are you telling me in your infinite wisdom, that a little more offensive firepower wouldn't have changed the games.
I'm saying I don't know and.....this part will hurt.......neither do YOU.
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You're going to be hesitant to give up any points when you're offense has no consistency.
You are saying that the LSU's defense would let the opposition score more if they had more confidence in the offense? Oooooooooooooookay.
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I know it's fun to play devil's advocate but 107th in passing should tell you something.
Tulane and Ole Miss had better passing ratings. I guess in your simple mind passing ratings are more important than wins. LSU had better a record than they did. Combined. What does THAT tell you?
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:14 pm to UGATiger26
Uncommon Cents is a big fan of the little guy. Everyone picks on JJ (rightfully so sometimes) and so he immediately jumps to his defense. Bashing the kid isn't the right thing to do. A lot of posters aren't doing that.
Uncommon Cents thinks that our coaches and any coach that is at the collegiate level is without fault. With that ideology, no coach would ever be fired. There were many on here that knew the CO-DC experiment was going to be disaster. But you'll still have posters like Uncommon Cents clamoring that the coaches know best. As a paying shareholder (aka financial supporter of the program), you want to see changes when you invest in the product. Very simple
Uncommon Cents thinks that our coaches and any coach that is at the collegiate level is without fault. With that ideology, no coach would ever be fired. There were many on here that knew the CO-DC experiment was going to be disaster. But you'll still have posters like Uncommon Cents clamoring that the coaches know best. As a paying shareholder (aka financial supporter of the program), you want to see changes when you invest in the product. Very simple
Posted on 1/31/11 at 6:18 pm to Uncommon Cents
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You are saying that the LSU's defense would let the opposition score more if they had more confidence in the offense? Oooooooooooooookay.
Not what I said. This is how you try to piss people off. I'm going to try and take the rational approach and explain things.
When you blitz, you take a gamble by putting someone on the field in a one-on-one position. A base defense is much more conservative and won't lead to as many big plays/score being given up. Blitzes on the other hand force turnovers and dictate field position. So there's a tradeoff. You can get burnt but can also force the issue. If you're worried that the offense can't muster 10 points, you're going to make the opposition march all the way down the field and beat you consistently. You're not going to risk an easy one like getting burnt on a screen pass.
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