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Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by geauxrenaud
America
Member since Dec 2007
326 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:09 pm to
Ohio State has top of the line talent let's get that out of the way right now and one heck of a coaching staff.

I think the 2 biggest problems are depth which causes too much comfort among the starters.

Ohio State practically hands out the starting lineups before spring practice,which makes the starters comfortable,when it comes to game time these guys don't have to fight for anything because they don't have to compete at practice.

It happened at Miami under Coker.SEC players literally fight for their jobs every practice and it shows when they come back from defeats week in,weak out.I also think Ohio State has a lot of players on their team without emotion(and i don't mean to be racist)but I see a lot of northern white guys on the playing field playing like they are statues,and then i see the animated southern players(white and black) and they play with a swagger.
Posted by rbf1216
Longwood, FL
Member since Jan 2008
91 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:14 pm to
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LSU's last TD was also in garbage time so the argument is moot. BTW, haven't you figured out that having a drive at the end of a loss can be a positive for the team in preparation for the next game or season? Teams do it all the time in a loss. The game does last for 60 minutes after all.


31 unanswered pts in a NCG.
Posted by ohiosportfan777
Valdosta, GA
Member since Dec 2007
2738 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:24 pm to
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I think the 2 biggest problems are depth which causes too much comfort among the starters.


quote:

Ohio State practically hands out the starting lineups before spring practice,which makes the starters comfortable,when it comes to game time these guys don't have to fight for anything because they don't have to compete at practice.


quote:

It happened at Miami under Coker.SEC players literally fight for their jobs every practice and it shows when they come back from defeats week in,weak out.I also think Ohio State has a lot of players on their team without emotion(and i don't mean to be racist)but I see a lot of northern white guys on the playing field playing like they are statues,and then i see the animated southern players(white and black) and they play with a swagger.


Those reasons might be the two dumbest things I've read in a long time.
This post was edited on 7/11/08 at 5:25 pm
Posted by geauxrenaud
America
Member since Dec 2007
326 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:32 pm to
31 straight points after the blocked fg speaks for me thank you very much.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36536 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:32 pm to
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If the 2006 and 2007 OSU teams were in the SEC you would equate to about a South Carolina and South Carolina doesn't make it to SECCG let alone the BCS.


Are you really that ignorant?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Ohio State has top of the line talent let's get that out of the way right now and one heck of a coaching staff.

I think the 2 biggest problems are depth which causes too much comfort among the starters.

Ohio State practically hands out the starting lineups before spring practice,which makes the starters comfortable,when it comes to game time these guys don't have to fight for anything because they don't have to compete at practice.

It happened at Miami under Coker.SEC players literally fight for their jobs every practice and it shows when they come back from defeats week in,weak out.I also think Ohio State has a lot of players on their team without emotion(and i don't mean to be racist)but I see a lot of northern white guys on the playing field playing like they are statues,and then i see the animated southern players(white and black) and they play with a swagger.




I forgot how much fun y'all had over here, ohh wait... are you serious...?
Posted by geauxrenaud
America
Member since Dec 2007
326 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:41 pm to
What? that doesn't make any sense dude

You change your favorite team as often as Matt Jones changes his coke straw,daily.
Posted by Adiossuck
South Carolina Fan
Member since Jan 2007
3768 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:43 pm to
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If the 2000 and 2001 OSU teams were in the SEC you would equate to about a South Carolina


There its fixed.. they were pretty equal
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:44 pm to
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What? that doesn't make any sense dude

You change your favorite team as often as Matt Jones changes his coke straw,daily.


The fact you actually think what you just spewed is true, is pathetic and actually a little sad.

Posted by geauxrenaud
America
Member since Dec 2007
326 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:48 pm to
Dude I'm not an analyst on tv nothing I have said is a fact except about you changing your teams every week.I simply stated an opinion on why I think they have had trouble against SEC teams.I also gave Ohio State a lot of compliments and said what I said in respect.However,your reactions and statements haven't mentioned a reason why Ohio State cannot beat an SEC team,only tried to distract others from making their points.Which is pathetic and actually a little sad.Good day to you sir
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:52 pm to
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Ohio State practically hands out the starting lineups before spring practice,which makes the starters comfortable,when it comes to game time these guys don't have to fight for anything because they don't have to compete at practice.



What does this even mean? Which players are you talking about? Link that discusses this?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:54 pm to
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It happened at Miami under Coker.SEC players literally fight for their jobs every practice and it shows when they come back from defeats week in,weak out.I also think Ohio State has a lot of players on their team without emotion(and i don't mean to be racist)but I see a lot of northern white guys on the playing field playing like they are statues,and then i see the animated southern players(white and black) and they play with a swagger.


1. 2002 Ohio State vs. Miami, how'd that swagger do? Ok.

2. Miami vs FIU
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:57 pm to
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However,your reactions and statements haven't mentioned a reason why Ohio State cannot beat an SEC team,only tried to distract others from making their points.Which is pathetic and actually a little sad.Good day to you sir


Vs Florida, Ohio State was not ready to play, simple as that. The loss of Ginn hurt a little, but the team wasn't ready.

Vs LSU, speed was a little bit of an issue but not as much as most seem to think IMO. LSU used a bunch of different looks on Offense which was the game on that side of the ball. Todd Boeckman was a 1st year quarterback of a rebuilding team and it showed when he ran into a senior laden LSU defense that came in to smack him in the mouth. LSU was the better team.

Ohio State 2007-2008 >>> Florida 2007-2008

LSU 2007-2008 >> Ohio State 2007-2008
Posted by Al Bundy
Member since Nov 2004
7278 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:42 pm to
they claimed to be "just as fast" and to "have more pros" - ALL 9 TIMES.
Posted by Al Bundy
Member since Nov 2004
7278 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 6:44 pm to
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If the 2006 and 2007 OSU teams were in the SEC you would equate to about a South Carolina and South Carolina doesn't make it to SECCG let alone the BCS.


The ranking of OSU in the SEC would be such that they finished 1st about every 7 years, 2nd another time, and 3rd or lower the other 5 years.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36536 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:12 pm to
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The ranking of OSU in the SEC would be such that they finished 1st about every 7 years, 2nd another time, and 3rd or lower the other 5 years.



I respectfully disagree.
Posted by king of kings
soulwood, la
Member since Apr 2008
103 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:13 pm to
Speed kills baby, an what the hell is a buckeye anyway
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:16 pm to
Think about this for a second:

Ohio State would have been first in 2002, not in 03, 04, 05, 06 maybe 2nd or third, last year 2nd or 3rd, this year maybe first, or second.

I would say that's pretty accurate.

What Ohio State is doing in the Big Ten is unheard of and really shows the lack of coaching/talent conference wide as a whole.

I think that Ohio State would be lucky to win the SEC every 5th-6th year. Every 7th is borderline and might be a little high, but its not very far if it is inaccurate.

And if they won the SEC, chances are they go to the MNC game so that would be more than a great accomplishment.
This post was edited on 7/11/08 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36536 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:19 pm to
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Ohio State would have been first in 2002, not in 03, 04, 05, 06 maybe 2nd or third, last year 2nd or 3rd, this year maybe first, or second.



OSU would've won the SEC in 05, IMO.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 7/11/08 at 7:22 pm to
And from 1968-2002 how many?


Not very many.

I'd say average 5-6 years every SEC Championship is ahead of the curve.
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