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re: Why exactly will we be improved from 2008?
Posted on 9/1/09 at 4:18 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 9/1/09 at 4:18 am to Ace Midnight
True Ace, but mainly causing more turn-overs would be huge too! Research it, it almost always goes hand-in-hand in winning. Championship teams do it!
Think Alabama-Arkansas games last year. ONE big play could have even been a 10-3 season even with all the problems we had. LSU is a team that could be right there in the end this year, so don't expect us to sneak up on anybody just bc we lost 5 games. Teams are going to bring it, but MAN SO ARE WE!!!
Think Alabama-Arkansas games last year. ONE big play could have even been a 10-3 season even with all the problems we had. LSU is a team that could be right there in the end this year, so don't expect us to sneak up on anybody just bc we lost 5 games. Teams are going to bring it, but MAN SO ARE WE!!!
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Posted on 9/1/09 at 4:24 am to JPLSU1981
makes me sick....90% of fans on here would rather make sure they expect less and possibly be surprised with more than expect greatness and be let down.. is it our passion or insecurities?? if we had floridas team(which if you are smart will realize the only advantage they have is qb) and put them with lsus helmets on we would still have the same fans saying something every second--like tebow will try and throw too much this year or we dont have harvin and a run game and people will exploit us and we are overconfident--etc etc bla bla bla.
dude---jefferson was way better than our famed pik 6 man last year---what do u think hell do this year?--add a defense and swagger---a better receiving corp and o line and line backers and secondary and d coordinator and attitude and what do u have? think about last years game against ga tech. our team will be like that all year but with more fire power offensively and more defensive consistency..............period-
dude---jefferson was way better than our famed pik 6 man last year---what do u think hell do this year?--add a defense and swagger---a better receiving corp and o line and line backers and secondary and d coordinator and attitude and what do u have? think about last years game against ga tech. our team will be like that all year but with more fire power offensively and more defensive consistency..............period-
This post was edited on 9/1/09 at 4:25 am
Posted on 9/1/09 at 4:32 am to JacksonLSU
Jackson-You can't really say our team will be like the Georgia tech game all year. That was truly a dominating performance, but indeed just 1 game. Boy it would be great if we could though!! Georgia Tech plays a style of ball that fits right into our hands. Your not just gonna line up and run option all over us. Now, through the air last year was a little different story. And 90 percent of fans that bi**h was too high. But anyway, here's to a fun, exciting, great 09 
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:11 am to JPLSU1981
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Guys, most of you know I'm one of the biggest LSU homers on the board. But I really am trying to "calm" the expectation level of many LSU fans, including my closest friends and to an extent myself as well.
I'm confused as to why everyone thinks the QB situation is going to be improved this year. We are in basically the exact same spot as we started last year at the QB position... a second-year player with practically no game experience starting at QB and a true freshman hanging behind him two spots down the depth chart. The only difference this year from last is we've got a backup QB that has actually seen some significant, meaningful playing time. That is the ONLY difference at QB in 09 compared to 08.
I realize most of us - including me - know the defense will be better this year. There is no question in my mind there. Hence, there will be improvement on that side of the ball that will hopefully save our young QBs when they make their inevitable young mistakes. To what extent will the defense improve our record from last year certainly remains to be seen.
All that said, why the optimism?? We've still got young QBs ... nothing you can say can change that. The RP deal set this program back 2 years, simple as that, and this is the second year and hopefully last year that we will feel the affects of that whole deal. I'm certainly hoping for the best, but it would not surprise me one bit if we saw the same shite at QB this year that we did last. I hope I'm wrong. And really one of the reasons I'm writing this is so that we go 13-0 with Jefferson leading the way and I was dead wrong (trust me, I desperately want to be wrong here!). But I just don't think we're ready at the most important position on the field to have the kind of impact that we all desire ... YET.
Sir, what you have written here is called SOBER ANALYSIS--completely and totally unsuitable for this board.
Hey, just kiddin' man, I'm absolutely with you on our QB situation. I have confidence in all our QBs (including JL), but expecting a 19-year-old with 2 1/2 games of experience to lead us to an 11-1 regular season is a tad much—especially since we play UGA, Bama and Ole Miss on the road. You just have to expect our QBs to have some ups and downs in what will be for them another learning season. 9-3/5-3 is what I'm thinking: '09 should be a good springboard for an excellent '10 season. We'll be fine.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:18 am to JPLSU1981
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with practically no game experience
wtf man?
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:20 am to JPLSU1981
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What ya mean? JJ has basically no experience, so I don't understand that point.
2 SEC games and bowl game mvp against a BCS team
what experience did JL and AH have before starting last year?
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:21 am to jrowla2
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we will be significantly improved on defense and the main reason for that is the players will know their assignments and trust the defensive coaches- both of which were big reasons for what happened last year
as for offense, we now have an experienced (somewhat) qb
this
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:33 am to JPLSU1981
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I'm confused as to why everyone thinks the QB situation is going to be improved this year
The reason is because Jefferson played like the type of QB LSU needs. He didn't force anything, minimize mistakes, find the open receiver, run when no one is open, take a sack when needed..etc... It's just that he came on at the end of the year when the defense was completley lost. Yes we still have young QBs, yes Jefferson will make mistakes....but I am more confident with Jefferson then I was with Lee.
Plus we have Shepard, expect to see him come in and run option plays like RP did in 2007.
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The RP deal set this program back 2 years
We don't know that yet, he defintley set the program back at least one year. But let's hope Miles uses that as a learning experience and will always have 2 QBs ready to go when the season starts
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:36 am to TigerPanzer
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Sir, what you have written here is called SOBER ANALYSIS
That's somewhat kind. It was Negatigerism, but certainly not the worst that's ever been posted on the board.
Why expect the QBs to improve? They're Sophomores now, not Freshmen. Why ever expect QBs to improve?
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I have confidence in all our QBs (including JL), but expecting a 19-year-old with 2 1/2 games of experience to lead us to an 11-1 regular season is a tad much—especially since we play UGA, Bama and Ole Miss on the road.
Why doesn't somebody just say it? Perrilloux shouldn't have been kicked off of the team. (I disagree with that notion, but that's what people are saying, not in so many words.) Once Perrilloux was kicked off the team (the right decision, for the right reasons, and if anything, later than it should have been made), we were destined to be VERY immature/inexperienced at QB for two full seasons. We are in the second season of that period.
We have every reason to expect that Freshmen QBs with NO experience will improve as Sophomores, especially with big game experience. UGA, Oklahoma and Florida have all recently had Freshmen and/or Sophomores lead outstanding seasons from the QB position.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:38 am to JPLSU1981
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Guys, most of you know I'm one of the biggest LSU homos on the board
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:45 am to Ace Midnight
I know there is reason to be nervous abou the Qb's but there have been plenty of young QB to come in and preform well. IMPO i think JJ will be real good. If you ever have seen him play in HS & now the games he's played in he just has that feel that he will be great, not to mention how he fits into the wizards offense
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:50 am to JPLSU1981
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Guys, most of you know I'm one of the biggest LSU homers on the board.
This is true and therefore this post took me by surprise JP.
You can count me as one who is extremely optimistic about this season. Do I expect to go undefeated? No. The road schedule is too difficult for that. But I actually feel very good about having Jefferson under center this year.
It's true that he is still very young and he has "only" two and half games of experience. But the fact is that he now has a full year in Crowton's system under his belt. Crowton himself has said that Jefferson (and Lee) now know exactly what he's talking about when they're sitting in front of him and he's diagramming and talking about plays, whereas they were both just confused in that setting a year ago at this time. I think that full year in the system is absolutely HUGE. He is also the perfect QB for Crowton's system, with his mobility and overall athletic talent. And Crowton will be able to open his playbook MUCH wider than last year due to the absolute lack of experience at the position.
Furthermore,I have no doubt whatsoever that Jefferson has that "IT" where it matters the most; between the ears. He'll make smart decisions with the ball. Most importantly, this guy is a LEADER who has taken the bull by the horns and stepped right into that role, and the team has responded to him, and will continue to.
So cheer up JP. Jefferson's football smarts and leadership, combined with his athletic ability will add up to ENORMOUS improvement at the QB position this season.
:cheers: 
Posted on 9/1/09 at 7:57 am to Ace Midnight
Even if our QBs throw the same number of interceptions, the ratio of pick-6's has to come down. Face it, 7 out of 16 is almost a 50% ratio, which is a freaky sized aberration.
The QB play wasn't a lack of talent as much as a lack of experience.
On the other hand, the schedule is definitely more difficult for winning the SEC West, The cards are definitely stacked against our Tigers this year.
The QB play wasn't a lack of talent as much as a lack of experience.
On the other hand, the schedule is definitely more difficult for winning the SEC West, The cards are definitely stacked against our Tigers this year.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:00 am to Bad Cat
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7 out of 16 is almost a 50% ratio, which is a freaky sized aberration.
You're right. NO WAY that happens again. No way.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:03 am to JPLSU1981
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The RP deal set this program back 2 years, simple as that,
RP wasn't winning many more games with that shitty arse defense last year
and we should have had capable backups recruited behind RP
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:03 am to Ace Midnight
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Why doesn't somebody just say it? Perrilloux shouldn't have been kicked off of the team. (I disagree with that notion, but that's what people are saying, not in so many words.) Once Perrilloux was kicked off the team (the right decision, for the right reasons, and if anything, later than it should have been made), we were destined to be VERY immature/inexperienced at QB for two full seasons. We are in the second season of that period.
You won't hear me saying RP shouldn't have been booted. Les did the right thing there.
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We have every reason to expect that Freshmen QBs with NO experience will improve as Sophomores, especially with big game experience. UGA, Oklahoma and Florida have all recently had Freshmen and/or Sophomores lead outstanding seasons from the QB position.
I'd say the Staffords, Bradfords and Tebows are few and far between, exceptions to the rule of slower, more painful development. Maybe I'm selling Jefferson short here, but it wouldn't surprise me—or necessarily disappoint me—if he has two or three crummy games this season. Chalk 'em up as learning experiences.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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RP wasn't winning many more games with that shitty arse defense last year
we probably go 9-3 last year with RP at the helm.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:09 am to JacksonLSU
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if we had floridas team(which if you are smart will realize the only advantage they have is qb)
their D was much better than our's last year and returns their entire 22 deep from last year
and their RBs are potentially better
our OL and WRs should be better, but t-bob may derail those plans
huge advantage at QB in terms of production for UF
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:11 am to JPLSU1981
The coaches knew this year who they had for qbs and took more time working in that area rather than assuming that they had a sure enough starter(rp). Last season they were counting on rp and when he screwed up these young guys were thrown to the wolves moreless.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:13 am to TheDoc
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we probably go 9-3 last year with RP at the helm.
we def beat arkansas with RP
i'm not sure we beat any other team with RP as a guarantee
people will say bama, but that game became what it was b/c of our mediocre season up to that point. without that motivation, i'm not sure what happens. AND, i'm not sure if we beat AU just b/c that game was going to be closer than it should have been
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