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re: Why exactly will we be improved from 2008?
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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their D was much better than our's last year and returns their entire 22 deep from last year
And that's clearly true. However, we have as much talent, certainly defensively, or more than Florida, at any position except LB and QB. It's just a matter of getting that talent out of them. Florida's team in 2007 was as talented as 2006 and 2008, but they didn't perform at the same level.
I'm ready to say it - LSU and Florida are the two most talented teams in CFB, with USC having an argument to be included as a group of three. The differences between the results over the past three seasons are primarily chemistry, experience and other "intangibles". Tebow, for all of the crap he's taken on the Rant, brings a ton of intangibles to the Florida sideline, lockerroom, practice field and huddle.
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Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:22 am to Ace Midnight
I can't wait to see Jefferson, the defense, and special teams in their first real challenge of the year. Georgia, until then LSU fans really do not know what they have on their hands.
Will Jefferson throw as many INT's as Lee, I would say that is an easy answer and the answer would be no. Could there be other issues such as fumbles and sacks? Yea that could happen.
Will the defense be as poor as last year? Probably not as LSU had many problems last year that was more than just the players on the field. Are they going to jump back into top 15 in defense this season? Maybe depends on the young players that LSU has. It is too early to really tell right now, LSU fans have hype for these players because they wear purple and gold.
Will special teams be an issue? Maybe, LSU needs to find someone to replace Colt and Fisher who played very well last season. What if LSU loses a game on a missed chip shot? What if a band punt leads to great field position for opposing team?
Hell none of these questions will be answered until LSU faces a good SEC team. Vandy will be a test but LSU's talent, depth, and coaching should lead to at least a 14 point win. UGA will be the first real challenge on the season coming in with the best defensive we would have seen to that date.
Will Jefferson throw as many INT's as Lee, I would say that is an easy answer and the answer would be no. Could there be other issues such as fumbles and sacks? Yea that could happen.
Will the defense be as poor as last year? Probably not as LSU had many problems last year that was more than just the players on the field. Are they going to jump back into top 15 in defense this season? Maybe depends on the young players that LSU has. It is too early to really tell right now, LSU fans have hype for these players because they wear purple and gold.
Will special teams be an issue? Maybe, LSU needs to find someone to replace Colt and Fisher who played very well last season. What if LSU loses a game on a missed chip shot? What if a band punt leads to great field position for opposing team?
Hell none of these questions will be answered until LSU faces a good SEC team. Vandy will be a test but LSU's talent, depth, and coaching should lead to at least a 14 point win. UGA will be the first real challenge on the season coming in with the best defensive we would have seen to that date.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:27 am to JPLSU1981
Just a slight improvement on defense will get this team 2 more wins. 9-3 with this schedule would be a good year, IMO.
Setting up for a SEC championship run in 2010.
Setting up for a SEC championship run in 2010.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:30 am to skullhawk
The amount of players we are losing after this season, I would say 2011 is our year. Next year could be a surprise but having to replace so many skill position people and so much along defensive line could be an issue.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:43 am to LSU Yellow Cab
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The amount of players we are losing after this season, I would say 2011 is our year. Next year could be a surprise but having to replace so many skill position people and so much along defensive line could be an issue.
They will be young depth wise but very talented. We will get Ole Miss and Bama at home. Auburn on the road is no big deal. Florida loses Tebow. I think it sets up nicely as far as the schedule goes.
We'll have Jefferson, Shep, Randle, Tolliver, and Murphy on offense. Hopefully Ford can step up as the power back and this group is as good as any in the SEC.
We lose Black and Hitt. That will hurt but won't be crippling, IMO. Three returning offensive line starters is above average.
The defensive line will be better depth wise with the young guys maturing. LB will be green but I don't see that being a strength this year either. Secondary will be sick. Taylor, Peterson, Eugene, Jones all return.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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and we should have had capable backups recruited behind RP
But who really wanted to commit with that QB situation? For them to be "capable," they would have had to commit when Jamarcus and Flynn both had 2-3 years left and either have the same eligibility or 1 year less than RP, who was supposed to be the best QB in the history of the world. We might have been the victim of our own QB recruiting success for that 1-2 year window.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:47 am to skullhawk
Counting on a lot of players who have yet to prove anything though.
I would not discount any SEC team, not to mention our 2010 schedule will have West Virginia, Southern Miss and possible North Carolina.
I would not discount any SEC team, not to mention our 2010 schedule will have West Virginia, Southern Miss and possible North Carolina.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:50 am to JPLSU1981
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What ya mean? JJ has basically no experience, so I don't understand that point.
You are dead wrong. JJ played against Ole Miss a good bit. Started and played the hole game against ARk on the road and played well until Miles put the handcuffs on the offense in the 2nd half. But the key is he got starters reps for an entire month and a half leading up to the bowl game and of course he played very well in the bowl game.
You cannot overstate the importance of a young player getting all those practice reps prior to a bowl game. Add to that the Spring and Fall practices, plus we have a capable backup QB---probably the best second stringer in the SEC in Jarrett Lee (*I don't care what anyone says).
Last year we had Hatch who played about 3 meaningless snaps the year before and Lee who had zero game experience and received 3rd string reps in practice for a year.
Monumental difference.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:50 am to JPLSU1981
How quickly we forget the 2001 season. How many of you were shaking your heads in dismay when Rohan Davey got injured in the 2001 SEC Championship game and Matt Mauck was given the call? I know that deep down we were all saying "who is this guy?" Before getting injured in the 2002 season he went 5-1 and led us to a NC in 2003. The point is--that was Mauck's breakout game which gave him the confidence to be a leader at the quarterback position. The same analogy could be made with Jefferson. The game against GT should have and more than likely will show him that he has what it takes to lead this team. Even a little bit of confidence can go a long way and improve his quarterback play as a whole.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:52 am to Tiger Ryno
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Monumental difference.
I agree, and anyone who says otherwise is just being argumentative.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 8:59 am to LSU Yellow Cab
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Counting on a lot of players who have yet to prove anything though.
I would not discount any SEC team, not to mention our 2010 schedule will have West Virginia, Southern Miss and possible North Carolina.
That is why I said SEC title run. Although, LSU will be favored in all of these games, IMO. I am counting on a lot of young guys based on a support staff member telling me that Miles believes the 2009 class is the best he has ever brought in. In 2 years a lot of starters will be from that class. Just look at the amount of guys already in the rotation. Loston would be there too if he had his grades in order.
While we lose a good amount this year we still have a good core group returning in '10.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:04 am to JPLSU1981
imo the offensive line, qb's, lb's and db's will all be improved. the defensive line is still somewhat of a question mark, however they will be better coached. i think charles scott's numbers will be about the same (and that's a good thing) as last year, however his numbers could be better due to the offensive line play.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:05 am to Brendoni
I can’t speak for anyone else, but the biggest reason for my optimism is the defense. Last year, the defense was downright terrible. They couldn’t stop anybody. Even with Lee throwing interceptions, LSU could have won two more games with a decent defense. Cut down on the INT’s, add a defense, and there’s plenty of reason to be excited.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:06 am to Baloo
the defense defiantly cost us the arkansas game. i'm not sure that's the case with ole miss, florida, uga or bama though.
This post was edited on 9/1/09 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:07 am to Baloo
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but the biggest reason for my optimism is the defense. Last year, the defense was downright terrible. They couldn’t stop anybody. Even with Lee throwing interceptions, LSU could have won two more games with a decent defense. Cut down on the INT’s, add a defense, and there’s plenty of reason to be excited.
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Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:08 am to skullhawk
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skullhawk
We shall see, I hope Les gives a lot of the young guys playing time in mop up duty. That way they can see the speed of the game compared to a practice.
Either way I am excited cause I leave tomorrow night for Seattle.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:11 am to JPLSU1981
quote:Because the QB we have now does not show a propensity to give the ball to the other team on a regular basis.
I'm confused as to why everyone thinks the QB situation is going to be improved this year.
quote:No we aren't. Ball security is very underrated. When you don't give the other teams 49 points to play with, and your defense is much improved, you will win a lot of games.
We are in basically the exact same spot as we started last year at the QB position..
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:11 am to skullhawk
We are losing some key guys, but we are stacked at the positions where we are losing them. In my opinion Alem is the one guy we lose after this season that will be toughest to replace. I know Lafell is a top notch guy but we have great depth there with Toliver, Randle, Shepard, Moulton, Tolliver, possibly other Freshman stud recruits who could come here to get immediate playing time. Randle and Shepard are going to the two elite playmakers in the SEC for the next four years. Blee dat (assuming Julio goes pro after this year).
We will have tons of young guys getting real reps all season on defense. Our secondary will be the best in the nation next year hands down. We'll have turnover at LB but you can argue that we'll be more talented than ever with Baker, Minter, Mingo, etc.... DL depth is looking crazy.
The key is returning serious depth at QB and the playmakers we have around them.
We will have tons of young guys getting real reps all season on defense. Our secondary will be the best in the nation next year hands down. We'll have turnover at LB but you can argue that we'll be more talented than ever with Baker, Minter, Mingo, etc.... DL depth is looking crazy.
The key is returning serious depth at QB and the playmakers we have around them.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:11 am to Brendoni
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the defense defiantly cost us the arkansas game. i'm not sure that's the case with ole miss, florida, uga or bama though.
disagree. The defenses inability to get off of the field on third down affected every game we played in last year. We struggled field position wise because of this.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:15 am to skullhawk
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The defenses inability to get off of the field on third down affected every game we played in last year.
so did the turnovers, it was a combination of both against uga, uf and ole miss. the defense played it's best game of the year against bama and wasn't the reason we lost that game.
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