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Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:17 am to cajunjj
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Last year u can put the losses all u want on the qb play
no you can't
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:18 am to pitbull20
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We scored plenty of points last year
Well we scored 147 fewer points than we did in 2007!
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:23 am to JPLSU1981
I disagree when it is stated that the ONLY difference at QB in 09 compared to 08 is that the backup has seen significant playing time. Last year, our starter was a Harvard transfer that was tried because it was felt he would make less mistakes. The problem was he was not good enough to make a lot of plays and had to run so much he got hurt a lot. This year our starter, though limited in expeience, has significantly more talent and is not overawed with the defenses. He will make mistakes, so did Matt Flynn, but i don't pick sixes in damn near every game and sometimes two a game (including near pick sixes). So, simply, better QB play and better D play.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:23 am to TheDoc
Failure has a thousand grandfathers.
The defense was plagued by poor coaching/preparation all season. The players were put in positions to have do do things that were completely outside their skillsets. Many many times the best players were on the sidelines watching while someone else in a sub package was getting abused.
The QB play was certainly not great and turnovers made it tougher on an already undermatched defensive coaching staff.
Beyond that, its clear that there was dissention in the ranks--Miles even addressed it. Unity issues will absolutely destroy a team. It appears Miles took the reigns and has that bit corrected--apparently he did this prior to the bowl game.
He has them all rowing in the same direction now. You will see a different attitude and team dynamic this year. I firmly believe that. Will they be a perfect team? No. They play too many great teams this year to think they'll go 11-1. I expect great improvement and a serious reduction in mental mistakes.
The defense was plagued by poor coaching/preparation all season. The players were put in positions to have do do things that were completely outside their skillsets. Many many times the best players were on the sidelines watching while someone else in a sub package was getting abused.
The QB play was certainly not great and turnovers made it tougher on an already undermatched defensive coaching staff.
Beyond that, its clear that there was dissention in the ranks--Miles even addressed it. Unity issues will absolutely destroy a team. It appears Miles took the reigns and has that bit corrected--apparently he did this prior to the bowl game.
He has them all rowing in the same direction now. You will see a different attitude and team dynamic this year. I firmly believe that. Will they be a perfect team? No. They play too many great teams this year to think they'll go 11-1. I expect great improvement and a serious reduction in mental mistakes.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 9:38 am to skullhawk
quote:The defense basically 'gave up' (not literally, but figuratively) after all the pick 6's, it was demoralizing, and it doesn't excuse their poor play, which also compounded the problem.
The defenses inability to get off of the field on third down affected every game we played in last year. We struggled field position wise because of this.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 10:05 am to jrowla2
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we will be significantly improved on defense and the main reason for that is the players will know their assignments and trust the defensive coaches- both of which were big reasons for what happened last year
That's my main concern going into the season right there. Will the mass LB/DB confusion be eliminated?
I don't want to see all our DB's doing this when the offense is just about to snap the ball into play.
I don't want to hear Hawthorne saying, "He's wide open" and "He's wide open again, nobody near him" and "There he is again. Nobody within 15 yards of him. He'll take it the distance for the score."
Barring a lot of major injuries in the offensive line, we'll score a lot of points, so hopefully the Chavis plan of fewer substitutions and simpler schemes will correct the defensive problems and enable the Tigers to win 9 or 10 games in the regular season.......
Posted on 9/1/09 at 10:20 am to JPLSU1981
I share some of your same concerns JPLSU and our schedule doesn't help. I do however think we'll be better for the reasons some of the insightful rantards have stated. My other concern is the O-line. I think if the O-line plays at a high level, LSU can get to the SEC title game.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 10:32 am to TigerPanzer
As bad as things were last as awful as it got, if we can finish off Bama and win that game against Arkansas that we threw away LSU finishes 9-3.
Just saying.
What will improve? Defense. Defense. Defense. They are hungry and ticked off. And our offense has experience now at the QB position. Sure JJ doesn't have a TON but he's started a game been in there. Same goes for JL he's started and played. That's valuable experience.
Just saying.
What will improve? Defense. Defense. Defense. They are hungry and ticked off. And our offense has experience now at the QB position. Sure JJ doesn't have a TON but he's started a game been in there. Same goes for JL he's started and played. That's valuable experience.
This post was edited on 9/1/09 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/1/09 at 10:57 am to JPLSU1981
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The RP deal set this program back 2 years
Ill give you 1 year...but 2?
How was RP more experienced prior to last year than JJ this year? RP started the SEC championship game...but so did JJ. People were talking heisman candidate for RP after minimal experience in '07. Im almost as excited about JJ coming into this year as i was about RP last year. I also think J Lee will be much more prepared to play this year in case JJ goes down. And shepard adds a dimension to the QB position that we didnt have last year. I believe we could run a purely option based package with Shep at QB and be incredibly effective. I think we are waaaaayyyy ahead of last year at QB. Time will tell.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:02 am to JPLSU1981
Even assuming arguendo that it is true, your point about the youthful quarterbacks isn't dispositive. Quarterback play was not the primary reason for last season's debacle. Porous defense was.
If you agree that the defensive play will improve this season, as you appear to, then you should also acknowledge that our record will improve. In spite of the erratic quarterback play last season, we likely would have finished 9-3 had the defense been even marginally competent.
There is absolutely no excuse for finishing 7-5/8-4 this season given the high talent level on the squad.
If you agree that the defensive play will improve this season, as you appear to, then you should also acknowledge that our record will improve. In spite of the erratic quarterback play last season, we likely would have finished 9-3 had the defense been even marginally competent.
There is absolutely no excuse for finishing 7-5/8-4 this season given the high talent level on the squad.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:03 am to HOUbengal
RP had also been in the system since 2005, he redshirted that year (does not mean much) then played a little bit in 2006.
In 2007 he saw enough action to attempt 75 passes. People were excited for him because he was accurate (68%) and in 75 attempts he threw 8 touchdowns and only 2 INT's.
In 2007 he saw enough action to attempt 75 passes. People were excited for him because he was accurate (68%) and in 75 attempts he threw 8 touchdowns and only 2 INT's.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:06 am to LSU Yellow Cab
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RP had also been in the system since 2005, he redshirted that year (does not mean much) then played a little bit in 2006. In 2007 he saw enough action to attempt 75 passes. People were excited for him because he was accurate (68%) and in 75 attempts he threw 8 touchdowns and only 2 INT's.
I understand all of that...but it's still not that much more experience than JJ. 75 pass attempts by RP? big deal. How many has JJ attempted? 50? 60? im too lazy to look it up.
We'll be just fine is my main pt. And we werent set back 2 years.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:11 am to HOUbengal
Jefferson had 73 attempts and 4 touchdowns and 1 INT. The issue was accuracy and sacks last year in the limited time he played.
Perrilloux was ready to start having been in and at LSU for 3 season. He came up with majority of players and had already built chemistry with some through practice.
Jefferson we are basing our opinion on him based on Peach Bowl game only it seems.
We may not have been set back 2 years because Perrilloux could have blown up and declared for draft and we would have been in same boat we are now.
Perrilloux was ready to start having been in and at LSU for 3 season. He came up with majority of players and had already built chemistry with some through practice.
Jefferson we are basing our opinion on him based on Peach Bowl game only it seems.
We may not have been set back 2 years because Perrilloux could have blown up and declared for draft and we would have been in same boat we are now.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:12 am to JPLSU1981
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We are in basically the exact same spot as we started last year at the QB position... a second-year player with practically no game experience starting at QB and a true freshman hanging behind him two spots down the depth chart. The only difference this year from last is we've got a backup QB that has actually seen some significant, meaningful playing time. That is the ONLY difference at QB in 09 compared to 08.
You failed to mention the biggest difference. Last year, after the starting qb was kicked off the team we ended up with starting qb that knew maybe half the playbook. He got hurt and the qb that was going to be 3rd string took over and knew about the same. None had any game experience in the SEC. Now they both know the playbook inside out and both have game experience. Both are a year older and more mature. BIG DIFFERENCE sonnyboy, big difference.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:14 am to LSU Yellow Cab
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Perrilloux was ready to start having been in and at LSU for 3 season.
Ya..but he was still learning a new system under Crowton, and JJ is ten times as smart as RP...
I think that evens things out a bit...
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:25 am to JPLSU1981
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All that said, why the optimism??
"I am an optimist . . . is there a choice?" ~Winston Churchill
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:30 am to Ace Midnight
My Bold Prediction For This Year.....
We will geaux as far as our QB will take us!!!
our d will be improved and we have the weapons on offense. i see us having a legit shot at a BCS bowl bid
only 4 more days!!!!!
We will geaux as far as our QB will take us!!!
our d will be improved and we have the weapons on offense. i see us having a legit shot at a BCS bowl bid
only 4 more days!!!!!Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:34 am to jmath27
4 pages later and JP has not responded to what I have given him. I guess his questions were answered and he is ready for a good season.
Posted on 9/1/09 at 11:36 am to Ace Midnight
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What ya mean? JJ has basically no experience, so I don't understand that point.
He's got a fricking BOWL WIN you a-hole! He was the MVP in a good bowl. He is just as ready as Matt Flynn was after his peach Bowl victory. Will he make mistakes? Sure... will he lead our team to victory several times this year? Yes
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