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re: Would the Rant Like a Little Cheese with that Whine
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:24 am to dstone12
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:24 am to dstone12
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or it's also hard to turn around a realist.
a realist understands there are probabilities with every situation, and that you'll never remove the ebb and flow of any dynamic organization, like a football team. Great companies understand the timing of their decisions and always understand all of the possibilities when they make a decision. Bad companies act on emotion and whims.
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:25 am to Choupique19
Choupique, prepare for some idiot to say...
"You must understand that we gave these teams a good battle."
"You must understand that we gave these teams a good battle."
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:25 am to noonan
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3rd in the west =/= mediocrity.
If you accept it as ok, it's mediocrity........but hey mediocrity has served Ole Miss well.
Do you realize this coaching staff has lost to Houston Nutt 3 years in a row? Is our staff not as good as Nutts? You can't convince me he has better players.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:26 am to Rouge
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as i rememeber, we got a lot better under pelini and saban over time.
That's what happens with good coaching.
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we still managed nine wins this season
"Managed" is a good way of putting it. We could just as easily have won only 6 (MSU, UGA, Arky), and no, we couldn't just as easily have won 11.
We were not clearly better than the 3 mentioned above but we were clearly not as good as Bama and Florida.
Of course that doesn't change 09's record, but it doesn't bode well for 10's.
Florida won 9 in 2007 but was clearly set up well for 2008. Same can't be said for LSU.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:26 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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I don't know what some of you see in next year being much better. With a tougher schedule, and with Stud, GC coming back. What makes you think Miles can turn a Buick into a Ferrari?
he needs to call the boys up from "pimp my ride"
I think X could get it done....
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:26 am to Rouge
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this is arguably the best time EVER to be an LSU football fan, and so many people on here can't help but ruin it by whining and bitching and moaning at every damn thing
like a bunch of women in here. if they aint bitching, they aint breathing
100% agree
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:27 am to Chicken
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If our AD believes that, it is a recipe for disaster. Tight economy + lackluster football program = fan apathy and lost revenue
that's part of my point to TG, bitching isn't going to ever have the impact that leaving will. Although, I think it is a little harder for the average fan to have an impact with the SEC's TV contract and bowl situation these days.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:28 am to uway
quote:so we know that Chavis and the defensive staff is not "good coaching"?
as i rememeber, we got a lot better under pelini and saban over time.
That's what happens with good coaching.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:29 am to dstone12
Fore, will emotions and whim be around if we win 8 games again next year?
I assume that the timing will be right by then AND, that there will be emotions and whim. Still want him around after that? Can you see us climing back to prominence with this coach? If so, then I am done arguing.
By the way, whoever said that I should shop around or pull for another team is just idiotic.
I don't pull for any team except LSU and my alma mater.
You are coming up with a cheap way to get us to stop arguing that this guy brings mediocrity to this program. I want a great coach for LSU, so don't think that I going to pull for ______.
That is just completely stupid.
I assume that the timing will be right by then AND, that there will be emotions and whim. Still want him around after that? Can you see us climing back to prominence with this coach? If so, then I am done arguing.
By the way, whoever said that I should shop around or pull for another team is just idiotic.
I don't pull for any team except LSU and my alma mater.
You are coming up with a cheap way to get us to stop arguing that this guy brings mediocrity to this program. I want a great coach for LSU, so don't think that I going to pull for ______.
That is just completely stupid.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:29 am to Rouge
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as i rememeber, we got a lot better under pelini and saban over time.
That's what happens with good coaching.
so we know that Chavis and the defensive staff is not "good coaching"?
Scoring D is all that matters. Chavis scoring D was stellar. LSU's problems do not lie with Chavis scoring defense.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:30 am to TJG210
fwiw...we finished 2nd in the West.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:40 am to dstone12
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Fore, will emotions and whim be around if we win 8 games again next year?
emotion and whim will always be around LSU...there were people on the Rant bitching after the '03 BCS championship game about the fact that players were cramping. Some fans will always have an asterisk by the '07 trophy. If we go 10-2 next year and get beat by Ole Miss and Bama, some will still be saying "it's eventually going to fall apart, might as well make the change now"
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I assume that the timing will be right by then AND, that there will be emotions and whim. Still want him around after that? Can you see us climing back to prominence with this coach? If so, then I am done arguing.
the timing is only right when you're at least 80% sure that the change you make is the right one. As I've said on here before, if I was assured that I can land my top 1 or 2 guys, and the money was committed for the buyouts, I'd make a change right now. Otherwise the risk of ending up with another Dinardo isn't worth it. My concern is more with the next 5 years than it is with next year.
As far as Miles leading us back to the top, I think it's possible, but I'm not sure he will. If he would've replaced Crowton this year, I would feel a lot better about it.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:55 am to dstone12
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Choupique, prepare for some idiot to say...
"You must understand that we gave these teams a good battle."
And the answer would be, "Since when are we paying Les Miles to put up a good fight against the good teams?" Nobody is saying he has to win them all, but we aren't paying him to keep the game close. We aren't paying him to finish 5 games out of the SEC West (2008), and 3 games out of the SEC West (2009).
Also, I would argue that the Florida game was not as close as the scoreboard showed. After kicking a FG late in the 2nd quarter, we never threatened them. They took the lead, sat on the ball, killed the clock, and our offense never passed midfield again but for maybe one time late in the 4th. All the while we trailed by 2 scores. Alabama beat us up, plain and simple. It was embarrassing to see us laying on the field hurt after nearly every play in the 2nd half. Butt whooping. Who the heck cramps so bad during a game in early November?
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:57 am to Choupique19
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Soooooo,
UGA, Arky, and Auburn = average teams.
Alabama and Florida = great teams.
Ole Miss = above average
We didn't beat any one of the great or above average teams. So I guess that makes 2009 LSU a little better than average.
Is Les Miles salary a little better than average? Why does his salary matter, because we're paying him to keep us in the top 10 on a routine basis. He's 0 for his last two in keeping us in the top 20. His outlandish contract is the reason he can't be fired right now (and the fact that he rode Saban's coat tails, and Pitt and Oklahoma, to the 2007 National Title). We are stuck with him.
thats great and all, but what did your other comment about florida and bama being better than us have to do with my comment?
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:00 am to ForeLSU
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If he would've replaced Crowton this year, I would feel a lot better about it.
Would this be considered whining?
Another thing if the idiot didn't talk in riddles, the public might have a little more faith in him.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:02 am to TJG210
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Another thing if the idiot didn't talk in riddles, the public might have a little more faith in him.
yall take his press conferences too seriously.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:03 am to ForeLSU
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Although, I think it is a little harder for the average fan to have an impact with the SEC's TV contract and bowl situation these days.
I can promise you that if behinds aren't in the seats buying merchandise/concessions, and making donations the higher ups will be quick to rectify the solution. Yea, they get a lot of money with the tv contracts, but these guys are greedy and will ALWAYS want more, and if they see their revenue streams aren't being maximized they will be quick to fix the problem.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:04 am to Rouge
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so we know that Chavis and the defensive staff is not "good coaching"
It starts at the top. I don't think Chavis can make or break the program from his DC position.
Chavis seems like a good coach to me. The proof of that for me is just that our LB group didnt suck this year. I didn't think those guys could play that well.
But if we don't do a better job of getting off the field and putting pressure on the QB next year, then I'll have my doubts about Chavis. Our scoring D was better this year, but we weren't exactly dominant.
As for Miles compared to Saban, well, that's just not worth talking about.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:04 am to noonan
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yall take his press conferences too seriously.
Not really, he just sounds like an idiot when he talks......nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 10:06 am to TJG210
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Would this be considered whining?
no, this would..."I can't believe that a-hole didn't replace the village idiot Crowton. He can take his short-side option and shove it up his arse. I'm tired of paying my money to TAF to watch this shite. If you people can't see that this is the worst coaching staff in the history of football, then you're all a bunch of retards"
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