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Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:03 pm to
This guy needs to take $25 and walk to the bank the same day.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:16 pm to
I’d be ok with $22, but Peter’s ego is too big for anything under $30.

I really hope options are granted prior to 2/28.
If they aren’t, then we have no reason to expect a good earnings call because he’ll want them cheap.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12978 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 7:27 pm to
This guy doesn't seem to act in the interest of shareholders
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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23767 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:16 am to
Q1 2022 Bloomberg script count: 168. This translated to 21.6 million in revenue.

We are showing 171 just six weeks into the quarter. If we continue on this pace 300 scripts will be easily attainable. Previously our best was 208 in Q4.

I'm thinking 35 million revenue for Q1, which would show 70% yoy growth. You'd think that would help the stock price, but of course these numbers won't be out until next earnings.



To the best of our knowledge, the Bloomberg terminal numbers account for roughly 1/6 of total scripts.

This week's 13 NEW scripts is an all time high. These numbers 13 x 6 should account for about 5m in annual revenue going forward. If 60% stay on drug then it translates to 3m. That's a good week's work for the sales team.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 8:22 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Q1 2022 Bloomberg script count: 168. This translated to 21.6 million in revenue.

We are showing 171 just six weeks into the quarter. If we continue on this pace 300 scripts will be easily attainable. Previously our best was 208 in Q4.

I'm thinking 35 million revenue for Q1, which would show 70% yoy growth. You'd think that would help the stock price, but of course these numbers won't be out until next earnings.



To the best of our knowledge, the Bloomberg terminal numbers account for roughly 1/6 of total scripts.

This week's 13 NEW scripts is an all time high. These numbers 13 x 6 should account for about 5m in annual revenue going forward. If 60% stay on drug then it translates to 3m. That's a good week's work for the sales team.



Thank you for sharing the numbers!!! I wish scripts translates directly to share price but unfortunately I've seen how this goes. 70% yoy growth would be stellar
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:16 am to
From @epausti on Stocktwits:

great script numbers again (thank you @Magnificient).

- this week’s TRx was right on the quarterly average, (avg TRx/day only decreased by 0.02) so still at 5.9 TRx/day in Q1
- scripts have been so high this quarter that I reduced the weighting of the more positive model (more conservative). Model ensemble predicts Q1 rev at 36.8m, or >147m for 2023 at no growth.
- another conservative measure would be to take the same % reduction of rev/TRx from last Q4–>Q1 and apply it to this Q4–>Q1. The math would be .1286/.1966 x .1365 = .0893 rev/TRx for Q1, or 33.7m. I believe this would be a fairly large departure from the model, but would still represent meaningful revenue growth.

I’m not sure what to think. I don’t want to be overly optimistic, but even at the conservative level it seems like sales have been picking up. What do people think - have Bbg scripts unintuitively become a larger % of total starting all of a sudden in 2023? Regardless, so far it’s been a great quarter.

This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by jerryc436
Franklin
Member since Jan 2014
600 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 11:42 am to
What is your estimate for share price in the next 12-24 months. I am holding my 1K shares for investment and trading the rest in CC's and cash covered puts to increase my trading shares.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

What is your estimate for share price in the next 12-24 months. I am holding my 1K shares for investment and trading the rest in CC's and cash covered puts to increase my trading shares.

I too, have traded a few shares for options.
I'm doing well with 3/17 $8 calls and I've begun adding some Jan '24 $10s.

So that tells you that I think we will be $12-15 organically by this time next year.

The biggest hurdle to achieving that kind of share price is marketwide headwinds, but with good revenues we should see pops on earnings regardless.

In the event of a major downturn (that I think is likely), I'd like to soon add some very long and very low puts on QQQ to hedge.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6698 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 3:21 pm to
You could play sqqq vs options and not have the stress of expirations

I am hoping we get to 11 - 12 range after earnings. I need to get off of some April exp options. I’ve been buying July but probably need to accumulate Jan options now and unass the closer expiring options

What are premiums for Jan 24?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 3:43 pm to
About a $2 premium for Jan ‘24 $10 call.

No expiration for SQQQ? News to me…
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6698 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:40 pm to
It's an inverse etf... you don't hold it years, but you can wait out an up cycle

2 dollar is cheap considering stock should be worth 12 right now
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:14 pm to
Oh I see your meaning now. Yeah I made money on 38s last week. I think I was playing 2/24 expiry.

Regarding AUPH someone mentioned that $5 calls were going for just four dollars on Friday. I’m talking Jan ‘24. Sounds like a steal!
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6698 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:41 pm to
I'll have to look when market opens

It feels like 12 is inevitable in the next month

Could always hedge against it. I mean we are talking multiples if BO happens, a hedge down isn't a bad play to cover costs
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:55 pm to
No doubt. I like the position I’m in with shares and those calls.
What would be a good put in case Peter somehow botches the earnings call?

Would we drop if he mentioned developing the new drug assets?
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12978 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:08 pm to
This thing hits $12 and I'm taking profits. They aren't motivated to sell and I don't see many other products in development based on my research. One trick pony it seems.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:27 pm to
I think they absolutely are shopping it.
There are two assets, but they are preclinical.
However, everyone hopes that they don’t initiate development.

Even as a one drug company they can be profitable and obviously a top candidate for a bolt on acquisition for all the big pharmas who need to replenish their arsenal with a great drug that will be potentially very profitable for 14 years.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:37 pm to
Something’s in the works. Price action today made it obvious.

7.90 to 8.00 all morning on extremely low volume with markets and XBI in deep red.

Then an 8.40 finish on 1.7 million shares traded in just 43 minutes.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1815 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:58 pm to
Or is it because Nektar's therapy didn't meet expectations and Lily said to shelve it for a 2b trial

eta: either way, that is positive news for AUPH. Lily could move to M&A vs developing own drug.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23767 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:21 pm to
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Or is it because Nektar's therapy didn't meet expectations and Lily said to shelve it for a 2b trial

Very astute. I had not caught wind of this yet. Though, to me, it really looked like organized short covering that got a bit disorganized around 2:00 PM.

However, if LLY needs an Lupus drug after two failures, I can actually see that having moved our stock price. I'd love to get back above $9 tomorrow.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6698 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:15 pm to
Either way, it should be positive for us

I'd love a BO news but I know that's dreaming
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