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Posted on 2/19/15 at 7:54 am to
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 7:54 am to
That's a pretty terrible draw for this time of year I believe. If I had to guess Ugaz will drop upon the report, but with the latest bullish action who knows? Last week saw a bad number but Ugaz ended the day in the green.

I'll be watching closely though.

ETA: and as jlu has pointed out, next week should be a huge number, so there could be anticipation for that.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 7:57 am
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 8:03 am to
today may be a good day to buy some ugaz and uwti

Posted by jlu03
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 8:58 am to
Just sold UGAZ @ 3.18 for a 9% profit. Buying DGAZ into the 9:30 report.

In DGAZ @ $6.59. Let's see what happens. Set a stop limit @ 6.30 just in case.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 9:15 am
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:10 am to
when does the report come out?
Posted by jlu03
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:11 am to
9:30
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:15 am to
DGAZ in at 6.63

Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:17 am to
UWTI actually may not be a bad risk/reward trade right now if you can get it closer to $3. Put a tight stop loss at 2.90'ish and look for a rebound to mid 3's. Wish I would've seen that earlier.
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:30 am to
-111
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:31 am to
quote:

-111


so what does this mean for the DGAZ I just bought?

Posted by jlu03
San Diego
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:36 am to
Well the -111 beat the estimate of -105 and should have moved NG higher but I'm not seeing much movement.

May take my 3% gain in 30 minutes and get out. Buy back into UGAZ as more cold weather pushes southward.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:48 am to
DGAZ - bought at 6.63, sold at 6.77

2.11% gain today

all within an hour, time to get back to my real job

Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:51 am to
It beat estimates, but it's still a relatively low number, at least compared to last year. The movement looks about as expected IMO. If Ugaz closes in the green, or even a little red, I think it still looks bullish for next week. I sold some at 3.16 before the report, then picked up more at 3 after. If it dips to 2.8's, I'm buying more.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:02 am to
This. Look at the 5-year average and last year's draws for the same week.
Posted by sneakytiger
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:16 am to
Also keep in mind that most of the funds, if not all, are already 100% in April futures. March contracts might bounce around before it settles on 2-25, but April may lag. March and April are called the "widowmaker" for a reason.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:21 am to
quote:

May take my 3% gain in 30 minutes and get out. Buy back into UGAZ as more cold weather pushes southward.


You selling the shares you bought at 2.93?
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:42 am to
How are you guys playing UGAZ? Short term, taking gains?
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3355 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:



You selling the shares you bought at 2.93?


Sold those shares this morning at 3.18.

Bought DGAZ immediately after @ 6.59 and just sold @ 6.78.

Probably jump back into UGAZ this afternoon depending on price.
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

How are you guys playing UGAZ? Short term, taking gains?


yes, I'm in and out the same day. Often within the same hour
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:29 pm to
Can you put on a stop loss or limit with robinhood?
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Can you put on a stop loss or limit with robinhood?


no
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