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Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2499 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:51 pm to
UGAZ's prospectus says it tracks just the NG portion of the index, which is comprised entirely of NG futures? ETN's are fricken crazy
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:55 pm to
sure it does track that..........but the entire GSCI has a reflection on it...........thats how natural gas traded up a cent earlier in week and UGAZ was down.

Track UGAZ and spot price and see what I'm talking about.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:56 pm to
It didn't really click to Russian questioned it.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:58 pm to
All I know is I'm gonna have some stagnant money in UGAZ for a while it seems.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7598 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

BOIL has become predictable


No it hasn't
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2499 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:27 pm to


UNG, UGAZ and the GSCI NG index seem to line up. UNG and GSCI are literally on top of each other in this chart. I can only go back this week on the index yahoo though.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:00 pm to
All I know is that when ng was 3.90-4.20 any Nov.... I was weekly trading ugaz in the 12-17 range
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36673 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:31 am to
-131 lulz
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10609 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:31 am to
About what I expected. I had though -125. Came in at -131. I think, and I haven't check, yty was about -200.
Posted by Crbello4Hiceman
Lurking
Member since May 2011
502 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:33 am to
Any commentary from anyone with knowledge here- do we have any catalysts coming up to help us get back over the hump or is this it for a couple of months?
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3355 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:34 pm to
Next week should be nearly double the draw from this week's report. After that I don't think there is much.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2499 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:54 pm to
Short-term, probably not, longer term there are exports via LNG and pipelines to Mexico, as well as some fuel switching from power producers that should help soak up supply or at least put a floor on prices. I'm not afraid of being long NG right now, but the prospect of being long in something like UGAZ for much longer does frighten me.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:40 pm to
In the green. Now, let's see if we can string about 5 of these together.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:40 pm to
In the green. Now, let's see if we can string about 5 of these together.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2499 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:28 pm to
From my favorite weather blogger



quote:

The chart above shows 500mb geopotential height anomalies during February, in a Phase 2 MJO wave. Notice the pattern encompassing the Central and Eastern US; strong negative height anomalies are present from south-central Canada into the Northeast. The strength of this anomaly tells me it's more than a simple trough. The longwave pattern here says this may be a piece of the tropospheric polar vortex being shunted south into North America due to blocking high pressure east of Greenland. Luckily, the MJO doesn't drive the whole pattern, so it doesn't automatically mean the vortex will be down to visit again. However, it does give an idea of what late January could be like. As the MJO wave moves further east in February, the pattern will once again turn warm. But for now, late January and early February are looking wintry across the US.

To summarize:
- A warm pattern is likely in the middle of January.
- It is possible a final burst of wintry weather strikes the Central and Eastern US in the final days of January into early February.

Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10609 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:58 pm to
We got the CNBC 1% promised return on NG today.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:51 am to
If anyone needs me, I'll be in my bed in the fetal position crying.
Posted by jlu03
San Diego
Member since Jul 2012
3355 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

If anyone needs me, I'll be in my bed in the fetal position crying.


+1
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2499 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:20 am to
Read something the other day saying we could see cash prices below $2 in the spring. It's like 2012 all over again.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:36 am to
Well shite
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