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re: 4th and inches call decided the game
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:08 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:08 pm to Dire Wolf
Based on those pics, they needed the 40 on the dot. The replays showed they got it twice, including third down.
I hate what the NFL has become. It’s a damn shame how blatantly bad they are altering games.
I hate what the NFL has become. It’s a damn shame how blatantly bad they are altering games.
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
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Is the ball even with Allen’s helmet on the overhead view? Does the sideline view show his helmet across the line to gain?
Try and be honest
It's in front of his facemask, which looks like it was right at the 40, give or take a couple of inches. We can't tell because it's blocked, and your overhead view is angled.
In a sport that has used an index card to decide if the nose of the ball was across the line to gain in the past, you still can't definitively say it was a first down or not. It doesn't matter how hard you try to.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:13 pm to RB10
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RB10
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Hawk-Eye collects and synchronizes every broadcast angle of every play in a game. Video from these camera angles is simultaneously sent using technology from Cisco to both the stadium replay review booth and AMGC in New York.
Learn more about the NFL’s Replay Assist process
Replay officials at the stadium and AMGC staff can simultaneously review multiple camera angles and select the best option to rule on the play under review. Up to four selected synchronized camera angles can be sent to the tablet used by the referee during replay reviews.
So if one angle shows the ball even with Allen’s helmet, while the other simultaneous angle shows Allen’s helmet across the line to gain, what does that definitively tell you man?
With any shred of honesty you just say they blew it
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
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So if one angle shows the ball even with Allen’s helmet, while the other simultaneous angle shows Allen’s helmet across the line to gain, what does that definitively tell you man?
An angled overhead view doesn't accurately show where his head was though.
You're in multiple threads trying to argue this point and have several people trying to explain this to you.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:16 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Despite that terrible call they still had a chance to win the game. I thought they were going to do it. But what happened. 
It is what it is. Focusing on that one play just seems dumb
It is what it is. Focusing on that one play just seems dumbThis post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:17 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
Bills repeatedly run the tush push but can't even run it right....a small running back behind Allen? They should've watched the Eagles do it and they'd be in the Super Bowl....well maybe, NFL always has tricks up their sleeve.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:18 pm to SaintLSU
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Despite that terrible call they still had a chance to win the game.
I didn’t watch it so I’ll take your word for it
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:27 pm to RB10
quote:It 100% accurately shows where the ball is in reference with his head. It shows the ball tucked on his face
An angled overhead view doesn't accurately show where his head was though.
The angle from directly down the line shows his head is across the line to gain
You are just digging your hole now if you can’t admit the above
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:31 pm to lsupride87
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It 100% accurately shows where the ball is in reference with his head
It shows it's right in front of his facemask, sure.
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The angle from directly down the line shows his head is across the line to gain
Nah it shows his head is right at the line to gain, at the very best. It does not definitively show that it is past it.
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You are just digging your hole now
Ironic.
Just say you think he got it and those pictures support your argument. Stop trying to convince everyone that there is no doubt though. There is clearly plenty of doubt.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:32 pm to RB10
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It shows it's right in front of his facemask
quote:You are now admitting it’s definitive proof he got a first
Nah it shows his head is right at the line to gain
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
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You are now admitting it’s definitive proof he got a first
No, I'm not. Jesus dude.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:35 pm to RB10
You literally just said the ball is in front of his face mask on one angle(which is clear) and his head is at the line to gain on the other angle (also very clear)
That is 100% admitting it’s a definite first down
That is 100% admitting it’s a definite first down
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:39 pm to lsupride87
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You literally just said the ball is in front of his face mask on one angle(which is clear) and his head is at the line to gain on the other abflw(also very clear)
He's facing almost backwards. From the back and/or top of a helmet to the front of the facemask is, what, around 8-10 inches of depth?
Just because his head is right at the 40 doesn't mean the ball is also at the 40. Especially since you can't actually see the ball in relation to the line.
We're talking about a sport that measures down to the inch in these situations. You're giving yourself an awful lot of leeway to declare yourself correct.
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That is 100% admitting it’s a definite first down
It's not, but keep repeating it all you want.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:29 pm to RB10
And that’s the problem, on a play like that you should leave no doubt. But people here are so infected with “the NFL is in the tank for Mahomes and the Chiefs” bacillus that they see what their biases tell them to see.
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