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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by ian
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:53 pm to
Who? i havent been able to keep up with him that much. and dont even mention tha "Maine-eac" that doesnt count.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:03 pm to
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Who? i havent been able to keep up with him that much. and dont even mention tha "Maine-eac" that doesnt count.


He finished Slyvia in thirty seconds. Took Randy five rounds. He also destroyed Arlovski. Barnett may be his biggest challenge.
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:24 pm to
Randy domminated Tim and Arlosky is not the same fighter since he began to shave his chest and speak english!!!! Fedor is not fighting the real and new tallent out there in MMA. Randy fought Brock...held his own till he got dingged. But that is how it goes. My whole arguement is he may have lost a step...cant tell cus he is fighting has-beens.

Big names who are past their prime...after he fights Barnet how bout he fights Coleman or Rizzo?
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 3:26 pm
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:25 pm to
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has-beens


both of which would be top 5 HWs in the UFC
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:27 pm to

WHO?
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:28 pm to
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Big names who are past their prime...after he fights Barnet how bout he fights Coleman or Rizzo?


Coleman is in contract with the UFC. Rizzo will prolly get dropped by Affliction. After Barnett, he will have wiped out the HWs not in UFC. I agree. He will have to make the jump to the UFC after Barnett. There will be no one left for him to fight.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:28 pm to
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WHO?


Slyvia and Arlovski would be top 5 HWs in the UFC.
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:30 pm to
That is my point....he fights to pad his legacy and i understand that. But who is the last person he fought that you were thinkin that they had the potential to beat him?
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:33 pm to
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That is my point....he fights to pad his legacy and i understand that. But who is the last person he fought that you were thinkin that they had the potential to beat him?


I don't think anyone can beat him inside and outside the UFC. Best bet would be Barnett IMO. Then maybe Mir. His best fights were Cro-Cop and Big Nog (I and II).
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81614 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:37 pm to
Brock
Mir
Randy
Nog
Velasquez
Carwin

Arlovski just got KOed by Bret Rogers in 10 seconds and Sylvia got KOed by someone Kimbo beat. Add in their Fedor fights and they've both been KOed in the first round in their last 2 fights, Sylvia was submitted in his 3rd to last fight. Sylvia definitely would not be top 5 UFC, Arlovski would be in the 6-10 range with Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Werdum, Kongo.
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 3:38 pm
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:38 pm to
Ramp....thanks for having this debate with me. I have tried to post on the other boards and if you arent in the clikc you get bashed for your opinion or they dont even respond.

back to this debate...i want to see him fight someone who is actual contender. Barnet is his biggest challenge so far this year. i cant take anything away from him anything he has accoplished, but would he be so dominant if he were in the cage?
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:39 pm to
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Arlovski just got KOed by Bret Rogers in 10 seconds and Sylvia got KOed by someone Kimbo beat. Add in their Fedor fights and they've both been KOed in the first round in their last 2 fights, Sylvia was submitted in his 3rd to last fight. Sylvia definitely would not be top 5 UFC, Arlovski would be in the 6-10 range with Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Werdum, Kongo.


up to the Fedor fight, both fighters were highly ranked. that was my point.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81614 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:41 pm to
true
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:42 pm to
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would he be so dominant if he were in the cage?


I really don't know. It would prolly be some getting used to but I think he'd adjust.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81614 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:45 pm to
its not like he is Cro Cop are something. UFC rules/cage might just suit Fedor even better. He is a beast in ground and pound without even being allowed to throw elbows in Japan.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12848 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:47 pm to
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its not like he is Cro Cop are something. UFC rules/cage might just suit Fedor even better. He is a beast in ground and pound without even being allowed to throw elbows in Japan.


What do u think about that? The Japs don't mind stepping on someone's face but heaven forbid there be any blood.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81614 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:48 pm to
i'd rather the US used those rules too but it would look too barbaric for the regulators. Purposely cutting with elbows like Florian and Loiseau is so gay while soccer kicks and head stomps are always fun.
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 3:51 pm to
NOWAY!!!!! How can you take elbows out. It makes the ground n pound not as effective!!!!!!!!

Admit it Max...if you could end a fight with a bow you would use it as one of your main offensive attacks. I know I would....
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 3:53 pm
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21012 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 4:02 pm to
I never understood why elbows were illegal in Japan. I know they don't want fights to end because of cuts, but if you can cut a guy to the point that the blood will affect his eyesight, then I say that is nothing but good strategy and smart fighting.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81614 posts
Posted on 7/6/09 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

NOWAY!!!!! How can you take elbows out. It makes the ground n pound not as effective!!!!!!!!

Admit it Max...if you could end a fight with a bow you would use it as one of your main offensive attacks. I know I would....


calm down, sport
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