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re: DAT - Rick Ankiel DFA'd edition
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:13 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:13 pm to Prominentwon
Most people are clueless. I have even heard people say "Well if Drayton were still here, he's spend some money on the roster. He cared about the fans" This B.S. Drayton would sell his own mother if he could make a buck. Drayton knew nothing about baseball yet was final say so in all baseball moves. He ran the team into the ground and believed we were that one piece away from competing. He picked up aging veterans who he believed were that piece and they sucked. He set Astros baseball back years and made off like a bandit with tons of cash. It's gonna take awhile for Crane to achieve what he wants but when he does look out.
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:16 pm to Prominentwon
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I still think Appel will be the pick and will be up by mid 2015.
I don't think it'll be that long.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:17 pm to BamaHater
Towards the end (Last 4-5 years) I think Drayton just mailed it in. He tried to fool the fans into thinking we still had a shot. He got out just before things collapsed. He got out and Crane too over the train wreck and now it's Crane who is the bad guy.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:27 pm to TXGunslinger10
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spend a little coin and get Brian Wilson in here to close.
What's the point with this team, he may get 10 chances to close a game.
All you Drayton haters must be forgetting that he brought us to our first WS with aging vets (Clemens, Pettitte, Kent, Ausmus). I don't blame the guy for trying to piece together a winner the couple of years after the WS run, but he should have tore it down when Mills became manager. He tried to hang on too long. I'm over it and the rest of the Astros fans need to get over it to. We have Crane and Luhnow here now trying to rebuild. Give them a chance, it's only been a year and I like what I'm seeing.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:28 pm to BamaHater
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"Well if Drayton were still here, he's spend some money on the roster. He cared about the fans"
Here you go fans!! My gift to you!!
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:29 pm to Ruxin
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I don't blame the guy for trying to piece together a winner the couple of years after the WS run
Yeah, Carlos Lee, Miguel Tejada. All MAJOR pieces in a glorious World Series run.
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but he should have tore it down
He did exactly that with the farm system.
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I'm over it and the rest of the Astros fans need to get over it to. We have Crane and Luhnow here now trying to rebuild. Give them a chance, it's only been a year and I like what I'm seeing.
Apparently you didn't read the thread.
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:34 pm to Prominentwon
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Carlos Lee, Miguel Tejada. All MAJOR pieces in a glorious World Series run.
I never said it was the right thing to do, just saying I don't blame him for trying. I hated the Lee signing and hated the Tejada trade even more, esp. with all the good things that were being said about Patton at the time, who seems to have turned into a pretty good LH reliver.
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He did exactly that with the farm system.
Yep, it's done though, no going back.
Read it from page 1, I'm saying the other Astros fans num nuts
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:41 pm to Ruxin
Drayton gets some credit for spending some money. He paid for Alou, Kent, Clemens and Pettitte. But he was nothing without Hunsicker. I'm still pissed at Drayton for the crap Mike Hampton trade and lack of FA acquisitions (with a contender) before they moved into the taxpayer funded Enron Field. He also didn't even try to keep Randy Johnson -- again, they were a contender and about to move into a new ballpark, so I don't care if Randy was intent on moving back west.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:41 pm to mattz1122
should have posted this earlier but Jeff Luhnow is on MLB network right now.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:44 pm to mattz1122
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for the crap Mike Hampton trade
Agreed.
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Randy Johnson
Don't get me started on Randy, I was beyond pissed.
Hunsicker was the greatest. That is all
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:48 pm to Ruxin
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I'm saying the other Astros fans num nuts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:49 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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should have posted this earlier but Jeff Luhnow is on MLB network right now.
notes? SOME people are at work.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:57 pm to Bunta
Speaking of Grossman....
That's .307 in the last 7 games
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Astros rookie Robbie Grossman is hitting only .208, and his .592 on-base plus slugging percentage won’t cement his temporary spot in center field any time soon.
But Grossman is 8-for-26 with five walks during his last seven games and has reached base at least once in each contest. The former Cy-Fair High School standout’s on-base percentage has risen from .130 to .321 during the streak, and he is beginning to show the plate discipline that intrigued the Astros when the club acquired him last July from Pittsburgh in the Wandy Rodriguez trade.
“I’ve been impressed with him since the day he arrived here,” Astros manager Bo Porter said after a 9-0 loss to Detroit on Sunday at Minute Maid Park. “I don’t pay much attention to batting average. It’s the quality of the at-bats.
“He’s walking; he’s scrapping; it’s deep counts; he’s seeing a lot of pitches during his at-bats. … And he seems to find the barrel.”
Grossman, 23, acknowledged he is feeling more comfortable at the plate now that he is entering his second full week in the majors.
“I’m going back to what I’ve done, and I’m just trying to help the team win,” Grossman said.
That's .307 in the last 7 games
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:57 pm to Prominentwon
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I still think Appel will be the pick and will be up by mid 2015.
I agree. And I would love it!
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:59 pm to Prominentwon
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notes? SOME people are at work.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:26 pm to Prominentwon
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notes?
MLBN- You made a lot of moves and let go of some of your verterans. Why?
JL: Didn't get off to a good start. This is a year where we need to learn about our entire 40 man roster. Had guys at OKC who deserved to come up and show what they can do. Parades was hitting for average power and speed. Wanted to give him a chace like we did with Grossman. Probably see a lot of that this year.
MLBN- Got off to an 8-24 start at the ML level. What are the challenges of the rebuild while every day youre gonna incur losses.
JL: Want to win at ML level. Had a bad stretch to start. Faced a lot of good pitchers, have tough schedule. Team will get better soon but have to stick to the plan of building best young talent in baseball to get where organization can consistently compete. Not there yet but making giant strides and feel like we'll be there sooner than most think.
MLBN- Youve got good track record with minor league development coming over from STL. First question I've got to ask is we keep hearing about 3-2 counts that its ok to take that pitch and not swing and batters are almost encouraged not to.
JL: Have offensive philosophy in organization to be aggressive at right time. 3-2 isnt the same as 0-2. 1 pitch away from a walk. If batter gets marginal pitch that if swung on isn't likely to produce a hit while having a 50/50 chance of getting a walk, its not worst thing to take that pitch. Its not mandated. Want hitter to be aware of the count. Most important decision is in whether to swing at a pitch. Want players to have all information needed before making that decision so they can be the best.
MLBN- As a hitter I think with 3-2 count I'm back in it. But if I have to think about whether I'm gonna take this pitch or not, determination has to be made real quick. If I've been told I'm better off not swinging, the mindset is almost passive instead of being aggressive.
JL: Its not that. Want them to be aggressive on pitches we know they can drive throughout the count. Also want them to be aware of how percentages change across count. Reality is if they swing at balls around fringe of zone, batting average will be 100 or less. If theres 50/50 shot at getting a walk sometimes its just better to take that pitch. OBP in minor leagues is top 4 of every league, top 4 in every league in walks and have highest winning % of all organizations in minor leagues. What were doing seems to be working down there.
MLBN- Playing devils advocate, in A-ball I'm learning what kind of hitter I am. If I have passive mindset, its kind of take instead of hit so its almost different mindset of being not aggressive.
JL- Wouldn't use the word passive. Would use the word disciplined. Want hitters to be disciplined. To get discipline its not flip a switch in the big leagues and turn it on. Something that you have to train for and do throughout minor league career. Discipline means being disciplined about being aggressive with right pitches in right counts and we stress that. Leads to lots of run production as were seeing in our minor leagues.
MLBN- Talk about the stacking of pitchers
JL: Its called the tandem system. Have 8 starters instead of 5. Doing it at 3/4 full season levels. Allows team to evaluate more starting pitchers. Several guys who wouldn't have otherwise made starting 5 at each level having very successful seasons. Able to see more of them. Working from developmental standpoint and isn't hurting record as evident by record. 3 teams in 1st 1 in 2nd.
MLB- Explain the tandem further
JL- 4 groups of 2. Pitch every 5 days instead of 6. First time through, 5IP or 75 pitches. 2nd time come in 6th inning and be maxed out by the end of the game or 65 pitches. Flexible system allows guys to stretch it further as they get further into season. Allows innings to be focused on 8 best starting candidates. Working well so far.
MLB- Done before or something new?
JL- Done before. Yankees and Reds many years ago. As farm director of Cards, implemented at A-ball and rookie levels. Want to develop starting pitchers and its working now. Got a lot of guys they want to see. Mike Foltynewicz (sp?) Vincent Velasquez Jarred Cosart. Key parts of future rotations. Gives chance to work early and late in games. More opportunities to go out and pitch.
MLBN- Next question about draft. Questions 20MM payroll and slotting and youll probably have #1 pick again. How will slotting change future picks and abilities.
JL- Astros have largest draft pool this year, domestic and international. Will use it to get as much talent as possible, draft and international. Nothing replaces scouting. Look at Cardinals, many players succeeding weren't taking high in the first round. Taken in late 1st, sandwich rounds, Jamie Garcia 21st round. With good scouts and scouting process, talent will be found. Trying to do that in Houston. Trying to replicate that model.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:30 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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OBP in minor leagues is top 4 of every league, top 4 in every league in walks and have highest winning % of all organizations in minor leagues. What were doing seems to be working down there.
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Astros have largest draft pool this year, domestic and international. Will use it to get as much talent as possible, draft and international. Nothing replaces scouting. Look at Cardinals, many players succeeding weren't taking high in the first round. Taken in late 1st, sandwich rounds, Jamie Garcia 21st round. With good scouts and scouting process, talent will be found. Trying to do that in Houston. Trying to replicate that model.
I have extreme high confidence in this guyThis post was edited on 5/7/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:35 pm to Prominentwon
I thought it was a great interview. You get an idea of how he's trying to shape the organization starting with players as soon as the come into the organization. Particularly with statistical analysis. Loved the line about how they want players to be aware of the percentages of swinging at a certain pitch. And that discipline starts in the minors.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 5:33 pm to Prominentwon
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I have extreme high confidence in this guy
I do too. The only thing I question right now is the pitching coach. Brocail has gone through quite a few struggling pitchers and has not been able to get any of them turned around. And the pitchers that haven't exactly struggled (thinking Norris here) - he hasn't been able to elevate at all.
I know he is a good "baseball guy", but I just don't see how the starting rotation or the bullpen have gained any benefit from him. If they want to pull an old Astros pitcher to run the pitching staff, throw some money at Shane Reynolds.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 8:38 pm to Prominentwon
Bump for okie tiger
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