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Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:36 pm to
They have done this before...keep their name in the running but never outbid the other teams. The appearance of ot being cheap.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:37 pm to
Lud-lowball offers IMO
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:52 pm to
Good point Jwho.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

They have done this before...keep their name in the running but never outbid the other teams. The appearance of ot being cheap.


You do you, Ryno. Like no body else.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:09 pm to
ESPN insider piece by Jeff Sullivan (Fangraphs contributer) on five teams that could put packages together for Sale and what he thinks it would take

LINK

His package for the Astros is Musgrove/Martes/Paulino/Kyle Tucker

Interested to hear what y'all would think about that. He probably isn't far off and because we wouldn't give up a Bregman or McCullers I would be inclined to do it but that's still a ton to give up
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:22 pm to
Damn, that would be painful, since Kyle Tucker is going to be a stud and Martes might be as well. We'd be giving up every promising pitching prospect we have that's close to the majors. But at the same time, Chris Sale.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

His package for the Astros is Musgrove/Martes/Paulino/Kyle Tucker


If we add another big bat like E5, I say do that without question.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9382 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:59 pm to
If I'm the White Sox I turn that down and insist on Reed be included in that package. If I were an Astro's fan, I wouldn't think twice about making that deal.

Young pitching is extremely volatile... actually that should be said of prospects in general. You get a sure thing like Sale for something like that, you jump on it IMO. It's going to take years to see if one of those arms reach anywhere near their perceived ceilings.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:30 pm to
We are 1 of 4 teams in strong pursuit of Rich Hill LINK
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:40 pm to
Not sure how I feel about Rich Hill at all. He's probably the best pitcher in free agency, but I see no way he tops what he did last year.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:50 pm to
Reed wouldn't tip it for me as an Astros fan and I would still do it if they wanted him added to that group. He still has a lot of time to work things out but he just does everything slow right now.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
For me, you can create a package with anyone who has yet to make the majors from our system and I'm happy.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28080 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

One rival exec theorizes #Astros trying to load up on offense so they can trade a young hitter (Springer? Bregman?) for an elite starter.


From Rosenthal

ETA: I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather part with Springer than Bregman
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102105 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

so they can trade a young hitter (Springer? Bregman?





Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

ETA: I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather part with Springer than Bregman


I dunno. I think I agree just because Springer is older and corner OF are easier to come by, but we better be getting a true ace if we are giving up either.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:48 pm to
If we get Encarnacion I'd be the happiest man alive. Dude can absolutely Rake. Imagine his power with the shorter CF and the Crawford Boxes
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102105 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Imagine his power with the shorter CF and the Crawford Boxes



I always felt like the Crawford Boxes were neutralized by the absurdly distant Centerfield. I expect it's going to play like a total bandbox next season.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:53 pm to
I did too.. but now Minute Maid is a Hitter's paradise
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94918 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:19 pm to
Theorizes.

Which means total guess


I may have a Ryno type melt down if they trade Springer.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
107801 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:22 pm to
You are correct. If one has to go it's springer.
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