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Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12243 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:33 pm to
I want a true ace on staff too, but that is the definition of trade rape.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:40 pm to
As much as I want Sale, there's no way in hell I would give up Bregman for him. Springer I would think about, but maybe not even him.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12690 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:51 pm to
frick trading Bregman.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12968 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:51 pm to
Throw in Roberson with Sale, they can have Bregman and any 3 from the list.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63242 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:55 pm to
I'm not saying I would want to do the deal I posted, but if we sign E5 and deal for Sale the favorites to win the AL this year are pretty obvious, even if you're giving up Bregman.

That said that package is hard to wrap the head around
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 4:58 pm to
Chris Sale and giving up a stud

quote:

But when including one of these guys, the magnitude of the upgrade becomes a lot smaller. For the Astros or the Nationals, they’d be swapping out a +3 WAR player for a +5 WAR player, which has roughly the same effect on the team’s expected record as, say, signing Josh Reddick. Reddick is a nice player who made the Astros better, but I didn’t hear too many people talking about how that move dramatically changed the course of Houston’s 2017 season.

Quote is talking about Bregman & Trea Turner btw.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:03 pm to
What we gave up for Giles was a load I can't imagine what JL would give up for an Ace... scary to think about losing Bregman.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24359 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:16 pm to
I've wondered the last few months how much Bregman being an LSU legend plays a factor in how the DAT wants him to be untradable (yes I know there are plenty of regulars in here that aren't LSU fans)

It's been relieving to see that most Astros fans across the board all over the internet view him the same way





As far as Encarnacion news, as mentioned before I'm not sure you'll see anything happen until the CBA is taken care of, although that hasn't stopped some big deals being made (Cespedes)
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24359 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:19 pm to
Just for fun, let's see where the DAT stands



Upvote if you're on board with dealing Bregs for Sale and becoming what most would view as AL favorites for next couple of seasons

Downvote if you'd rather keep Bregs and find a deal for a different high quality pitcher but not quite Sale (Archer would be the popular rumor but I'm not sure if we could get him without Bregs involved either)


I'll start us off with a downvote
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94927 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:26 pm to
I found a glitch and was able to downvote twice
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24359 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:29 pm to




NYT baseball writer just tweeted this:
quote:

Strong indications now that there will be no lockout. Sides seem close enough that they'll get a deal by midnight or extend deadline a bit.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84068 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:32 pm to
I think Bregman is a player who wins you games in October. People are asking us to trade them our top prospects. Ok, fine - Tucker, Martes, Reed, etc. are on the block. When they ask about Bregman, we need to say "he's not a prospect, he's our starting third baseman" and leave it at that.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:54 pm to
Completely agree with that. Our infield has the ability to be special for a long time with Bregs, Altuve and Correa along with a pending Encarnacion signing and eventually Reed/White down the line.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12690 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm to
Keep Bregman, sign Beltran and save money to throw at Otani next year.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24359 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm to
Jon Morosi just tweeted:

quote:

Edwin Encarnacion’s agent, Paul Kinzer, just told me there is “nothing imminent” at the moment for him with a free-agent contract. Edwin Encarnacion has multiple offers in hand, with multiple teams still involved.


ETA a follow up tweet

quote:

Encarnacion’s agent, Paul Kinzer, declined to comment about teams, but #Astros and #Yankees believed to be among remaining suitors. @MLB
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84068 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

and #Yankees


Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:12 pm to
As if I needed another reason to hate the Yankees
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102108 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:13 pm to
White Sox fans have 6 hours to deliver us Encarnacion.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

What we gave up for Giles was a load I can't imagine what JL would give up for an Ace... scary to think about losing Bregman.


This is true.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:50 pm to
Just came to terms with Nori Aoki, 1 year 5.5 million to avoid arbitration per Jake Kaplan on Twitter.
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