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re: Face It: Brees will go down as the GOAT
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:32 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:32 am to theunknownknight
quote:
The joke in this thread is how underrated Brees is IN this era.
He's averaged almost 5000 yards and 36 TDs per season with no real superstar receivers like Moss, Welker, or Gronk. You could say Graham was great but it is obvious now who was the driver of his success.
To put it in perspective: Brady has only thrown for 30 TDs or more 6 times and over 4800 or more yards 4 times in 15 years. Brees thrown for 30 or more TDs for eight straight seasons and 4800 yards or more (assuming he has a sub par last game) 5 straight seasons and 6 of the last 8 seasons.
Everybody knows how good Drew Brees is. He's a slam dunk first ballot HOF quarterback, nobody other than the most hardcore anti-Saints people would deny that.
As great as he is, he's not in the discussion for best QB of ALL TIME. I don't care what his stats are, they don't tell the whole story of quarterback play in the almost 100 year history of the NFL.
Saying he's somewhere between 10-20 all time is very high praise. Comparing him to a guy like Steve Young is very high praise. I don't know what you're bitching about.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
I personally think he's around 8-12 all time.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:07 am to Boomshockalocka
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Kinda like McCown stepping in and throwing for 300+ yards and hit on 80%+ of his passes?
Under a non-Brees QB the saints have a 68% passer rating over the last 10 years.
Under a non-Brady QB the patriots have a 85.2% passer rating over the last 15 years with a "yearly average" of 4500 yards and almost 30 TD passes.
Stats prove Brady is a system guy.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:10 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
Give Brady, Manning, Favre, Marino, etc 650 attempts every season and see what their stats are
Brady has averaged almost 600 attempts a season (excluding injury year) since 2007.
ETA: Same for Manning
ETA2: and Marino from 1984-1994
ETA3: and Favre has the most attempts all time by a mile
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 10:15 am
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:39 am to theunknownknight
Peyton is the GOAT....
but if he is now done, and Drew keeps up this outrageous passing for another 3 or 4 years, I agree with the OP.
but if he is now done, and Drew keeps up this outrageous passing for another 3 or 4 years, I agree with the OP.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:03 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Funny how everyone else glossed over the 15 years of proof Brady is a system QB as opposed to Brees 
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:16 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Give Brady, Manning, Favre, Marino, etc 650 attempts every season and see what their stats are
How about give Brady a minimum of eight indoor home games a year and let me know what his numbers would look like.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:21 pm to brgfather129
The indoor outdoor thing is overrated. I remember Peyton having slightly better outdoor stats during his time in Indy than indoor stats.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:23 pm to Volmanac
quote:
The indoor outdoor thing is overrated.
K.
Good thing the splits are readily available...how about you take a look and report back? ThxIA.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:28 pm to theunknownknight
Stop confusing your favorite player (i.e. Kobe, Brees) with the greatest of all time. It doesn't work that way.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:31 pm to brgfather129
quote:Which website are you using that lets you focus on his time in Indy, and not include the Denver years?
Good thing the splits are readily available...how about you take a look and report back? ThxIA.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:35 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I'll edit...not talking about Manning.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:37 pm to mattz1122
I guess no one is going to chime in on the fact that any scrub over the last 15 years (WRs/Kickers/RBs included) could step behind center with the Patriots and put up numbers similar to Eli Manning?
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:38 pm to brgfather129
Am I reading this right... Brady only has 20 games played indoors?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:45 pm to saintsfan92612
quote:
We played against Peyton in the super bowl ya dingus
he meant Sean Payton. But you knew that.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:59 pm to theunknownknight
Indoor Arena-ball attempts that Brees has thrown in this watered down two-hand touch league...
DOES NOT EQUATE to Marino attempts.
Marino in the dome with no wind and patty-cake defensive back rules would have been declared the greatest of all-time.
Brees should have done more in his era and his home-field advantage and current rules and protection.
But he's a short dude with an average arm who would have been killed in the 80's.
Don't ever compare him to the great Marino or Elway who are 10x better than Brees could ever be...and don't count numbers...and passing yards...everyone knows that today's numbers are like the steriod era in baseball - they don't mean shite under Goodell and concussion-less football.
DOES NOT EQUATE to Marino attempts.
Marino in the dome with no wind and patty-cake defensive back rules would have been declared the greatest of all-time.
Brees should have done more in his era and his home-field advantage and current rules and protection.
But he's a short dude with an average arm who would have been killed in the 80's.
Don't ever compare him to the great Marino or Elway who are 10x better than Brees could ever be...and don't count numbers...and passing yards...everyone knows that today's numbers are like the steriod era in baseball - they don't mean shite under Goodell and concussion-less football.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:04 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Elway TEN TIMES better than Brees will ever be? 
Elway barely ranks top 10 among his own peers statistically
...oh nvmd, you're right, I looked it up - Elway finished with 750,000 yards passing, 5000 TDs and a 95% completion rate
Elway barely ranks top 10 among his own peers statistically
...oh nvmd, you're right, I looked it up - Elway finished with 750,000 yards passing, 5000 TDs and a 95% completion rate
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:08 pm to theunknownknight
Cam is a better QB.
But I would still take Brees over Ryan right now, so there is that.
But I would still take Brees over Ryan right now, so there is that.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 3:13 pm to flyAU
quote:
Cam is a better QB.
You can't possibly believe that.
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