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re: James Posey = Robert Horry
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:54 am to reddman
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:54 am to reddman
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if he DOESN'T score in the playoffs, they'll be home for the Western Conference finals again.
and something insane like 50% of his shots are 3s, just to give you an idea of what his scoring is
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Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:54 am to BradyBall07
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Slo I don't think that Posey is what puts them over the top. I think their experience from last year along with Posey is what can put them over the top
Exactly. Almost every good team takes a lump in the playoffs before they make the leap. (Boston this past year is the exception for obvious reasons.) I think the Hornets will take the leap, but we'll see.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:55 am to BradyBall07
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I think their experience from last year along with Posey is what can put them over the top
i still just don't see it
not with the front court
not with only 1 player who can create his own shot (who doesn't like to and would prefer setting up others)
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro sign Morris Peterson and release Marko Jaric.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:57 am to Solo
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Almost every good team takes a lump in the playoffs before they make the leap.
the hornets were just kind of exposed
and they had done really really well against the spurs in the regular season
but the NBA playoffs are not the regular season. the hornets don't have a team built for the NBA playoffs
they play good D, but other than that they're missing key ingredients (tough rebounding, 1-on-1 scoring)
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:57 am to NOBODY
i got gibson, so i have another guy who is pg eligible. jaric = hurt, like 1/3 of my team
Posted on 10/31/08 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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the hornets were just kind of exposed
and they had done really really well against the spurs in the regular season
but the NBA playoffs are not the regular season. the hornets don't have a team built for the NBA playoffs
SFP they damn near sweep the Mavs and took the defending champs to 7 games? I think that was pretty solid for their first playoff run.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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not with only 1 player who can create his own shot (who doesn't like to and would prefer setting up others)
If we're in a playoff series and Paul is in the game (which he is 85% of the time come playoffs) we're fine as even you would admit.
When paul has to rest we have the option of having Peja, Posey, MoPete, Butler all in the game. All are above-average (Butler, MoPete) to clutch (Posey) to legendary (Peja) shooters - especially from 3. Defenses will be spread to cover the 3 shooters, which opens things up for the PG and West or Chandler (West last night). If the defense ISN'T opened up that means one of the 3 shooters is open.
Adding Posey and having Butler/MoPete find their stroke offsets the lack of a 2nd creator.
This post was edited on 10/31/08 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:01 am to AlejandroInHouston
Also Slo they do not need a player who can create a shot for themselves. They have a very rare player who is capable of creating shots for everyone.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:04 am to BradyBall07
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SFP they damn near sweep the Mavs
they're better than the mavs, adn the mavs aren't built for playoff basketball either
they made 1 finals in their run and they spent a lot more money and had a lot more depth than the hornets will
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and took the defending champs to 7 games?
a team who didn't even win the conference last year. remember that
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:05 am to BradyBall07
I would still argue that depending on the matchup, West is able to create his own shot with that little back-down dribble spin move he's got. He used it a few times last night with success.
Sure he goes back to his fadeaway baseline jumper when his matchup isn't favorable and the shot clock is running down - but so did Karl Malone.
Sure he goes back to his fadeaway baseline jumper when his matchup isn't favorable and the shot clock is running down - but so did Karl Malone.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:06 am to AlejandroInHouston
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we're fine as even you would admit.
when paul is in? yes
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When paul has to rest we have the option of having Peja, Posey, MoPete, Butler all in the game.
while all of them are sitting around the 3 point line, who is going to get them the ball or take defenders away from them?
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to legendary (Peja) shooters
not in crunch time in the playoffs
he's a legendary choker
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Defenses will be spread to cover the 3 shooters, which opens things up for the PG
mike james, a guy who also prefers to shoot 3s and hasn't shown he can get his own shot in years
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Adding Posey and having Butler/MoPete find their stroke offsets the lack of a 2nd creator.
not really. he provides the exact same offense they do. you're just adding more of the same
"the same" was not enough last year
This post was edited on 10/31/08 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:07 am to BradyBall07
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Also Slo they do not need a player who can create a shot for themselves.
yes they do
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They have a very rare player who is capable of creating shots for everyone.
yeah when he plays 100% of the minutes in a big series we're SET
like i said yesterday. for the hornets to win the title paul pretty much has to be the best NBA player. ever.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah when he plays 100% of the minutes in a big series we're SET
Does Kobe are the guys who "create their own shot" play 100% of the minutes? And if not what happens when they aren't in there?
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
We are so frickED in the playoffs with CP running the show.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:40 am to BradyBall07
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Does Kobe are the guys who "create their own shot" play 100% of the minutes?
the lakers have kobe on the perimeter and pau/bynum in the post.
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And if not what happens when they aren't in there?
those teams have varied teams who can sub in guys who can do it
look at the spurs. parker and ginobili on the perimeter and duncan in the post. 1 of these guys is on the court at all times
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:40 am to Solo
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We are so frickED in the playoffs with CP running the show.
how the frick did you come to that conclusion from what i said?
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:42 am to BradyBall07
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And if not what happens when they aren't in there?
the Bench Mob
Posted on 10/31/08 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Seriously, I need to find a way to convice CP he needs to be the best NBA player ever this year, or we can't win a title. Its our only hope.
Posted on 10/31/08 at 11:15 am to BradyBall07
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SFP they damn near sweep the Mavs and took the defending champs to 7 games? I think that was pretty solid for their first playoff run.
I love how people are pointing to an insignificant game in October versus a team that the Hornets should already be better than as proof that Posey is the missing piece for the hornets.
guys. The Hornets are supposed to beat the Suns this year. So are 3 or 4 other teams in the west.
and people keep saying that they took the defending champ to 7 games. So fricking what? The defending champs then got beat themselves.
None of this matters. What matters is watching key situations in the game, and how the players respond to playoff like defense. How the players respond in different groupings and against different matchups.
You will see hints of this until the playoffs. And the Hornets will win a ton of games. But when the playoffs come around all the small weaknesses you will have ignored will be amplified. And the Hornets will not have what it takes to get it done. They just don't have the personnel IMO.
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