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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:41 am to
In their last 5 playoff games, Julio has averaged 110 yards/game. Brown has averaged 109 yards/game. You should slowly back away from the idea that Brown doesn't show up big in the playoffs.

ETA: You're looking at a five-game sample size against different defenses and weather and saying "see, look how Julio beasts in the playoffs!" It's silly.

And if you want to get technical, Julio has beasted in 2 of his 5 playoff games. 3 of those 5 games he didn't break 70 yards.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:44 am to
quote:

In their last 5 playoff games, Julio has averaged 110 yards/game. Brown has averaged 109 yards/game. You should slowly back away from the idea that Brown doesn't show up big in the playoffs.

ETA: You're looking at a five-game sample size against different defenses and weather and saying "see, look how Julio beasts in the playoffs!" It's silly.


Yeah, I knew that argument of his was shite, but I figured boxer or someone would shite on it eventually.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:45 am to
You said Brown doesn't show up big in the playoffs.

You are flat out full of shite. He's shown up big in the playoffs.

Not his fault the other Steelers WRs dropped 5 big passes and Bell got hurt.

He was constantly double teamed against the Pats.

Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

He was constantly double teamed against the Pats.


I guess you could say teams think Brown is worth double teaming but Julio isn't.

















Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:47 am to
I'm very interested to see how the Patriots cover Julio. I'll definitely be going back to watch the all22 on that game.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58756 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:48 am to
I would want the best receiver in the NFL.

So Antonio Brown.
Posted by mmjones87
we so cold
Member since Oct 2008
14206 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:48 am to
Julio
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I'm very interested to see how the Patriots cover Julio. I'll definitely be going back to watch the all22 on that game.
If anyone can scheme it together, it's Belicheck
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28203 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:50 am to
He ever had a 180 yard game?How bout a TD in a Conference Champioship game?Or even a divisional
Playoff game?

Ok,so you were on previuos thread about these 2 and you REPEATEDLY pointed AB's TD numbers but now they don't matter in the playoffs?????
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

He ever had a 180 yard game?How bout a TD in a Conference Champioship game?Or even a divisional
Playoff game?

You should stop moving goal posts to fit your argument. It causes no one to take you seriously.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

He ever had a 180 yard game?How bout a TD in a Conference Champioship game?Or even a divisional
Playoff game?
When you get those goalposts settled, let me know.
quote:

Ok,so you were on previuos thread about these 2 and you REPEATEDLY pointed AB's TD numbers but now they don't matter in the playoffs?????

Link it, friend.
Posted by WarmBubble
Member since May 2007
1891 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:00 am to
Brown. Can change a game in the blink of an eye. On offense and special teams. Plus doesn't get injured as often.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28203 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

You should stop moving goal posts to fit your argument


Not moving any goal post.180 yards and 2 TD's is showing
up big.Having a 100 yard game vs considerable underdog in a playoff game at home by your leading receiver is somewhat expected.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54347 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Not moving any goal post.


quote:

180 yards and 2 TD's is showing
up big.Having a 100 yard game vs considerable underdog in a playoff game at home by your leading receiver is somewhat expected.


Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Not moving any goal post.
First it was "AB doesn't show up big in the playoffs." That was shot down quickly. Now it's "yeah but how many 180 yards games does he have? what about TDs in conference and divisional games?"

That's called moving the goalposts.

You're essentially using a two-game sample size as proof that Julio is better. That's silly shite.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:08 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28203 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

First it was "AB doesn't show up big in the playoffs."


Did ever once point to specific numbers with my defnition of big???And wouldn't you agree that a teams and the AFC's leading reciever having a 100 yerds
is somewhat expected?And not having a TD in divisional or conference champ game is not a good thing and subpar?

Correction in regards to previuos thread.You did not point to TD numbers as an arguement vs Julio.Others did but you did not
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28203 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

You're essentially using a two-game sample size as proof that Julio is better. That's silly shite.



Only part of the arguement in regards to the total picture and we're referring to playoff numbers as part of what we're talking about.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Julio has 4.3 speed, but doesn't have the QB with a big arm like Ben that can actually get the ball down the field.



lol is this still a talking point on this board?
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Did ever once point to specific numbers with my defnition of big???And wouldn't you agree that a teams and the AFC's leading reciever having a 100 yerds
is somewhat expected?And not having a TD in divisional or conference champ game is not a good thing and subpar?
So because it's expected of AB to do good, it's not worth mentioning that he did good? So I guess we can just toss out the good games Julio has had because it's just expected of him.

BTW, the regular season matters too. I had Julio on fantasy this year and I definitely recall at least 1 game where he not only had 0 TDs, he didn't have a single damn catch. I could go ape shite with that one game, but that's just trying to discredit a guy with a ludicrously small sample size, which is what you're trying to do.

Edit: I fact checked myself. He didn't have any 0 catch games in the regular season barring games he missed with injury. He did however only have 1 catch against NOLA in one of the two games, argubaly the shittiest defense in the league this season.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Julio has 4.3 speed, but doesn't have the QB with a big arm like Ben that can actually get the ball down the field.
Wait, are we just acting like Matt Ryan isn't having a MVP caliber season?
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