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Posted on 7/13/09 at 11:41 am to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21012 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 11:41 am to
The 9-toed wonder?
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24586 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 11:54 am to
The Russian that he was lucky enough to beat would stand a better chance. He was Lesnar like, and had previously beat Roulon (sp?).
Posted by olomgamer231
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2009
259 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:05 pm to
I don't know if yall know this or not, but Shaq's been training MMA for about 10 years now being a cop and apparently isn't that bad, and is planning to compete in a major organization after basketball. I'm thinking Shaq-Lesnar UFC 150
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37624 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:08 pm to
I thought about Karelin, but he is 42, has been retired since 2000 and hasn't had a mma fight.

Gardner is 38, was competing internationally in wrestling as recently as 2006 and has a mma win over Yoshida in Pride.

eta: plus he's immortal
This post was edited on 7/13/09 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:12 pm to
Looking at this pic it is easy to see why Mir was so humble. I'm surprised he is already talking about a re-match.




Posted by BiggTiger
Member since Feb 2007
223 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Mir made Lesnar tap out. Multiply those submission skills by about 20, then you have Emelianenko.

No shot.


I agree that Fedor is a much better fighter than Mir. More well rounded and probably one of the best submission fighters in the world. Problem for the matchup between Fedor and Brock is Brocks size. Because of his broad shoulders and thick neck. Traditional submissions just wont work on him. It would take a very tall leggy fighter to pull off a triangle on him. Chokes could be done if he makes the mistake of lifting his chin, but any good fighter knows to keep your chin tucked with someone on your back. But Lesnars hand strength and size become factors in that as well. Hand control is cruicial to pull off most submissions. Randy said in a interview aswell as Mir that controling Lesnars hands was damn near impossible considering his strength.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15417 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:21 pm to
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Its real easy to be humble after you just got your arse whipped.


Ok listen to what Mir said after he beat Lesnar in their first fight.

Then get back to me.

That is the clear difference. All fighters talk shite about each other before the fight. It builds up the fight but it's what you do afterwards.

No one hated each other more than Matt Serra and Matt Hughes and they shook hands after the fight and gave mutual respect. Hell even Ken Shamrock shook hands with Tito Ortiz after their third fight.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6220 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:22 pm to
Fedor is good but really? Who has he beat? Orlovsky? Orlovsky was good in the UFC for a little while but had no chin. We already knew that. He has an exceptional ability to put people in an arm bar
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:24 pm to
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480, you dumbass. So no one can have an opinion unless they want to fight Lesnar over it?


I meant if anyone on the MMA community had a problem with it....not anyone on here.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:27 pm to
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Wow. So you're saying he's the best P4P fighter? Not GSP who's basically unbeatable at 170, not Anderson who's unbeatable to this point at 185, not undefeated Lyoto Machida, 4-1 Brock Lesnar. No.


No I am saying he is the baddest MMA fighter on the planet....period! I didnt say anything about P4P. Lesener would DESTROY Machida,Silva, and GSP.
Posted by BiggTiger
Member since Feb 2007
223 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:27 pm to
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Who has he beat?


Win 30–1 (1) ArlovskiAndrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction: Day of Reckoning 02009-01-24 January 24, 2009 1 3:14 Anaheim, California, United States Defended WAMMA Heavyweight Championship
Win 29–1 (1) SylviaTim Sylvia Submission (rear naked choke) Affliction: Banned 02008-07-19 July 19, 2008 1 0:36 Anaheim, California, United States Won vacant WAMMA Heavyweight Championship
Win 28–1 (1) ChoiHong-Man Choi Submission (armbar) Yarennoka! 02007-12-31 December 31, 2007 1 1:54 Saitama, Japan
Win 27–1 (1) LindlandMatt Lindland Submission (armbar) BodogFight - Clash of the Nations 02007-04-14 April 14, 2007 1 2:58 St. Petersburg, Russia
Win 26–1 (1) HuntMark Hunt Submission (kimura) Pride Shockwave 2006 02006-12-31 December 31, 2006 1 8:16 Saitama, Japan Defended Pride World Heavyweight Championship
Win 25–1 (1) Coleman 2Mark Coleman Submission (armbar) Pride 32: The Real Deal 02006-10-21 October 21, 2006 2 1:16 Las Vegas, United States
Win 24–1 (1) Melvin ManhoefZuluzinho Submission (strikes) Pride Shockwave 2005 02005-12-31 December 31, 2005 1 0:26 Saitama, Japan
Win 23–1 (1) FilipoviæMirko Filipoviæ Decision (unanimous) Pride Final Conflict 2005 02005-08-28 August 28, 2005 3 5:00 Saitama, Japan Defended Pride World Heavyweight Championship
Win 22–1 (1) Kohsaka 2Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (doctor stoppage) Pride Bushido 6 02005-04-03 April 3, 2005 1 10:00 Yokohama, Japan
Win 21–1 (1) Nogueira 3Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (unanimous) Pride Shockwave 2004 02004-12-31 December 31, 2004 3 5:00 Saitama, Japan Defended Pride World Heavyweight Championship
Won Pride 2004 HW GP
zNC 20–1 (1) Nogueira 2Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira No contest (accidental headbutt) Pride Final Conflict 2004 02004-08-15 August 15, 2004 1 3:52 Saitama, Japan Pride 2004 HW GP Finals
Win 20–1 OgawaNaoya Ogawa Submission (armbar) Pride Final Conflict 2004 02004-08-14 August 14, 2004August 15, 2004 1 0:54 Saitinokiama, Japan Pride 2004 HW GP Semifinals
Win 19–1 RandlemanKevin Randleman Submission (kimura) Pride Critical Countdown 2004 02004-06-20 June 20, 2004 1 1:33 Saitama, Japan Pride 2004 HW GP Quarterfinals
Win 18–1 Coleman 1Mark Coleman Submission (armbar) Pride Total Elimination 2004 02004-04-25 April 25, 2004 1 2:11 Saitama, Japan. Pride 2004 HW GP Opening Round
Win 17–1 NagataYuji Nagata TKO (strikes) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 02003-12-31 December 31, 2003 1 1:02 Kobe, Japan
Win 16–1 GoodridgeGary Goodridge TKO (strikes) Pride Total Elimination 2003 02003-08-10 August 10, 2003 1 1:09 Saitama, Japan
Win 15–1 FujitaKazuyuki Fujita Submission (rear naked choke) Pride 26: Bad to the Bone 02003-06-08 June 8, 2003 1 4:17 Tokyo, Japan
Win 14–1 ValaviciusEgidijus Valavicius Submission (kimura) Rings Lithuania - Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas 02003-04-05 April 5, 2003 2 1:11 Vilnius, Lithuania
Win 13–1 Nogueira 1Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (unanimous) Pride 25: Body Blow 02003-03-16 March 16, 2003 3 5:00 Yokohama, Japan Won Pride World Heavyweight Championship
Win 12–1 HerringHeath Herring TKO (doctor stoppage) Pride 23: Championship Chaos 2 02002-11-24 November 24, 2002 1 10:00 Tokyo, Japan
Win 11–1 SchiltSemmy Schilt Decision (unanimous) Pride 21: Demolition 02002-06-23 June 23, 2002 3 5:00 Saitama, Japan
Win 10–1 HasemanChris Haseman TKO (lost points) Rings - World Title Series Grand Final 02002-02-15 February 15, 2002 1 2:50 Yokohama, Japan Won Rings World Class Tournament
Win 9–1 HasdellLee Hasdell Submission (guillotine choke) Rings - World Title Series 5 02001-12-21 December 21, 2001 1 4:10 Yokohama, Japan
Win 8–1 YanagisawaRyushi Yanagisawa Decision (unanimous) Rings - World Title Series 4 02001-10-20 October 20, 2001 3 5:00 Tokyo, Japan
Win 7–1 SobralRenato Sobral Decision (unanimous) Rings - 10th Anniversary 02001-08-11 August 11, 2001 2 5:00 Tokyo, Japan
Win 6–1 SchallKerry Schall Submission (armbar) Rings - World Title Series 1 02001-04-20 April 20, 2001 1 1:47 Tokyo, Japan
Win 5–1 ApostolovMihail Apostolov Submission (rear naked choke) Rings Russia - Russia vs. Bulgaria 02001-04-06 April 6, 2001 1 1:03 Yekaterinburg, Russia
Loss 4–1 Kohsaka 1Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (cut) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B 02000-12-22 December 22, 2000 1 0:17 Osaka, Japan
Win 4–0 AronaRicardo Arona Decision (unanimous) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B 02000-12-21 December 21, 2000December 22, 2000 3 5:00 Osaka, Japan
Win 3–0 TakadaHiroya Takada KO (strikes) Rings - Battle Genesis Vol. 6 02000-09-05 September 5, 2000 1 0:12 Tokyo, Japan
Win 2–0 LagvilavaLevon Lagvilava Submission (rear naked choke) Rings - Russia vs. Georgia 02000-08-16 August 16, 2000 1 7:24 Tula, Russia
Win 1–0 LazarovMartin Lazarov
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68814 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Fedor is good but really? Who has he beat?
Haha dude just STFU now, he's beaten the best of the best pretty much.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:31 pm to
Fedor does a good job of beating people after they get let go from the UFC for losing....ill give him that! And yes he did ok in Pride but look how well those Pride guys have done once they got to the UFC. CroCop was the biggest joke of them all!
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81617 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Fedor is good but really? Who has he beat?


Haha dude just STFU now


i kige this


and by kige i mean agree not pet a lady with a pretty dress so hard taht you kill her
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12851 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:46 pm to
Who has Fedor beat? The Who's Who of HWs not named Brock or Mir whom he could both handle fairly easily.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:52 pm to
Look dumbfrick, I already told you to never make another MMA post on this board. You have got to be the most ignorant poster I have ever seen in regards to MMA. Please quit embarrassing yourself and making people refute your stupidity.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:53 pm to
Just for that im going to post in every MMA thread. And who made you the authority on MMA? I know this much....I could break every bone in your face in less than 5 seconds. Pussy.
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3284 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:57 pm to
It amazes me that so many people who have never really seen Fedor fight now think that Lesnar would smash him.

Fedor has been the best fighter in the world for quite awhile now. Just because you never heard of him until Dana White mentioned his name doesn't mean he isn't the best.

Fedor has fought the best in the world. Don't look at the UFC versions of Crocop and Big Nog as the type of fighters they were. Fedor beat them both in their prime. He has never ducked anyone. Just won't give in to "Suge" White and his tactics.

quote:

The Ramp


This was not directed to you at all.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:57 pm to
Goddamn you are an idiot. If you enjoy making an arse of yourself and showing everyone just how fricking stupid you are, by all means carry on.

Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12851 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

This was not directed to you at all.


I know and I didn't mean to direct my post to you. I agree completely with you
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