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re: Peyton Manning's Top 5 QB's
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:28 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:28 am to whatiknowsofar
You seem very fixated only in playoff performance. So let’s look at playoff performance
QB A
64.6%—328.6 yards/game—2.6 tds/game—0.4 int/game—100 rating
QB B
67.3%—275.3 yards/game—1.42 tds/g—0.57 int/game—93.8 rating
It doesn’t tell the story you want to portray. By far the biggest knock on Allen is turnovers. Which is why playoff Allen is so elite. He completely takes away the turnovers but keeps everything else about his game
QB A
64.6%—328.6 yards/game—2.6 tds/game—0.4 int/game—100 rating
QB B
67.3%—275.3 yards/game—1.42 tds/g—0.57 int/game—93.8 rating
It doesn’t tell the story you want to portray. By far the biggest knock on Allen is turnovers. Which is why playoff Allen is so elite. He completely takes away the turnovers but keeps everything else about his game
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 9:33 am
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:34 am to lsupride87
I give you a lot of shite but at least you will try to find some statistical backing for your arguments.
WhatIDon’tKnowSoFar doesn’t care about any of that. Burrow went to LSU (as a rent a qb, just like Daniels) so he’ll call whatever he does great no matter how run of the mill or bland it is. It’s just the never ending state of Louisianans.
WhatIDon’tKnowSoFar doesn’t care about any of that. Burrow went to LSU (as a rent a qb, just like Daniels) so he’ll call whatever he does great no matter how run of the mill or bland it is. It’s just the never ending state of Louisianans.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:36 am to Dairy Sanders
I am not on your side here 
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:36 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
as a rent a qb
Every college player is a rental.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:43 am to lsupride87
Say what you want about Burrow, but when healthy he has taken two teams full of misfits to the conference champ game and to a SB. He has the most important attribute for a QB which is the ability to make players around him better.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:45 am to dukke v
quote:Thats so stupid
he has taken two teams full of misfits
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:45 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
so he’ll call whatever he does great no matter how run of the mill or bland it is
Making two afc title games and a sb appearance in 4 years is bland and run of the mill.
Another dairy I'm dumb Sanders gem folks
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:49 am to lsupride87
Those bengal teams were not that good except for two or three player before burrow got there…
Allen has had much better coaching and talent than Joe…. To be honest, Allen has been a failure with as great as you say he is.
Allen has had much better coaching and talent than Joe…. To be honest, Allen has been a failure with as great as you say he is.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:49 am to lsupride87
quote:
By far the biggest knock on Allen is turnovers. Which is why playoff Allen is so elite. He completely takes away the turnovers but keeps everything else about his game
Yep he totally doesn't turn the ball over in the playoffs.
Except for when he runs into little ole Joe.
Qb A: 23/36 242 yds 2 tds 0 int 101.9 rtg
QB B: 25/42 264 yds 0 tds 2 ints 68 rtg
And QB B was at home.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:06 am to dukke v
quote:full blown retard
Those bengal teams were not that good except for two or three player before burrow got there… Allen has had much better coaching and talent than Joe…. To be honest, Allen has been a failure
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:07 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:So now I have reduced you to using only one single playoff game for each. Nice
Yep he totally doesn't turn the ball over in the playoffs. Except for when he runs into little ole Joe.
We could compare them in the playoffs facing the same defense in the chiefs if you’d like to use one game and one game against the actual same defensive unit
2022 Allen and burrow vs chiefs defense
QB A
60.5%—275 yards—2 tds—1 int—86.5 rating
QB B
72.9%—397 yards—4 tds—0 int—136 rating
Sometimes it helps for your misfit teammates and coaches to perform on the other side of the ball
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:09 am to lsupride87
quote:
So now I have reduced you to using only one single playoff game for each. Nice
Lol you said this
quote:
He completely takes away the turnovers but keeps everything else about his game
But he doesn't.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:11 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:He has 4 ints in 10 playoff games
But he doesn't.
Burrow has 4 in 7….
Their playoff records boil down to this:
Bengals defense are giving up a full 6 points less than the bills in the playoffs. That is massive
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:20 am to dukke v
quote:
teams full of misfits
Lol
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:22 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Yep he totally doesn't turn the ball over in the playoffs. Except for when he runs into little ole Joe. Qb A: 23/36 242 yds 2 tds 0 int 101.9 rtg QB B: 25/42 264 yds 0 tds 2 ints 68 rtg And QB B was at home.
Did Joe pick the ball off or did his defense?
Don’t hurt yourself answering that.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:31 am to lsupride87
quote:
He has 4 ints in 10 playoff games
He has 6 turnovers in 10 playoff games
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:36 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Ok
He has 6 turnovers in 10 playoff games
A 0.6 turnover rate per game is fantastic for a qb. Especially one average 330 yards per game and 3 tds….That would be 10 turnovers in a 17 game season. If Allen did that in the regular season he is MVP with ease
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:36 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
Did Joe pick the ball off or did his defense?
Don’t hurt yourself answering that.
Did josh "completely eliminate the turnovers" that game or did he not?
Try again dairy I'm dumb sanders
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:38 am to dukke v
quote:
Those bengal teams were not that good except for two or three player before burrow got there…
Allen has had much better coaching and talent than Joe…. To be honest, Allen has been a failure with as great as you say he is.
I don't know about coaching, I kind of like Zac Taylor, but the teams have had overall less talent. Both of those Bengals teams had two of the worst offensive lines in history, especially the 2021 team. That team had no business being in the SB and had the worst offensive line I've personally ever seen make it to a SB.
Like I say, that's why I give Joe the edge over Allen. He's done more with less. He's overachieved and Allen has semi under achieved. And I say semi under achieved because it's hard to beat Mahomes, and I didn't favor them in any of the Bills/Chiefs games. But I didn't favor the Bengals in 2021 either but they got it done.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:40 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Joe burrow teams give up 18 ppg in the playoffs
Like I say, that's why I give Joe the edge over Allen. He's done more with less
Josh Allen teams give up 24
For reference, a 6 difference is the margin of the #1 scoring defense vs the 18th
This “more with less” is a fabricated lsu fan token line
Bengals have the better WR corps
They have had by far a better defense in the playoffs as well
Bills have had a better O line
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 10:44 am
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