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re: Programs that are really on a "decline"
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:56 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:56 pm to RollTide1987
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Oklahoma has been just as consistent, if not more so, than LSU. Since 2000 they have won their conference 8 times. LSU has 3 conference titles in that same time period. They have been to 8 BCS games in that time period. LSU has been to 5. Of those 8 BCS appearances, 4 of them were made in the national title game. LSU has appeared in the national title game 3 times. Granted LSU has won more national titles over that time period (2 vs. 1).
Yes but... the SEC has had Auburn, Alabama, Florida win a total of six national championships in that time frame... is it fair to make the conference championships/BCS appearances comparisons straight up when LSU is being beaten out by programs who won national championships?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:05 pm to jefffan
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Texas/OU: Increasing instate competition and laziness has eliminated their advantage in the B12, and has OSU and Baylor to now run that conference
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:27 pm to molsusports
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Yes but... the SEC has had Auburn, Alabama, Florida win a total of six national championships in that time frame... is it fair to make the conference championships/BCS appearances comparisons straight up when LSU is being beaten out by programs who won national championships?
Exactly. This is like FSU fans always bringing up conference titles with us.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:41 pm to benhamin5555
Really on a trending decline:
Virginia Tech
Nebraska (settled into plateau)
Boise
Florida (if this keeps up, TBD)
Texas (4 years of mediocrity)
Iowa
Wisconsin
TCU
Virginia Tech
Nebraska (settled into plateau)
Boise
Florida (if this keeps up, TBD)
Texas (4 years of mediocrity)
Iowa
Wisconsin
TCU
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:00 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Nebraska is the epitome of a declined program. They were so dominant in the mid 90's after decades of being an NC contender on the reg. The lack of top 10 finishes would stun a husker fan from the 70's - 90's.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:07 am to benhamin5555
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Stanford- Another team that seems to have reached its peak with Jim Harbaugh and Andrew Luck.
wut
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:16 am to StraightCashHomey21
Fresno State at one point no BCA team wanted a part of them because they would lose
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:33 am to benhamin5555
Right on.....until next year or the next when all that suddenly changes.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Stanford- Another team that seems to have reached its peak with Jim Harbaugh and Andrew Luck
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:38 am to benhamin5555
In theory, Alabama has nowhere to go but down. So unless they start going unbeaten for a couple of straight years, then they will "decline".
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:16 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
B1G - Nebraska and Penn St (this is really hurting the conference)
ACC - Virginia Tech
B12 - Texas, TCU
SEC - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida
PAC - Oregon (next year will tell the truth)
With that being said, every one of those schools can turn it around.
ACC - Virginia Tech
B12 - Texas, TCU
SEC - Tennessee, Georgia, Florida
PAC - Oregon (next year will tell the truth)
With that being said, every one of those schools can turn it around.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:23 am to Buckeye Backer
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TCU
did this program ever reach a point to have a decline?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:27 am to benhamin5555
USC for sure.
Mora staying put while USC hired another Carroll lackey.
Mora staying put while USC hired another Carroll lackey.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:37 am to stout
lol
you claim oregon,stanford, and USC, but LSU is not on the list???
Nebraska, Michigan, also added
you claim oregon,stanford, and USC, but LSU is not on the list???
Nebraska, Michigan, also added
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:38 am to theBeard
quote:Averaged more than 10 wins a season for a decade before going 7-6 last year.
did this program ever reach a point to have a decline?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:40 am to benhamin5555
I think Oregon and Stanford are both ridiculous suggestions of programs on the decline.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:42 am to genro
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A real, long-term decline of once great programs... Notre Dame
Notre Dame hasnt had a losing season in 4+ years now, went 12-1 in 2012, played in the national title, and continues to bring in top 10 recruiting classes. They have also played in 3 BCS bowl games. Not to mention, they have one of the best coaches in the country.
They are not *elite* but still a top 10-15 program.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:42 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:54 am to Buckeye Backer
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Nebraska
agreed
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Penn St
I still think BOB will get things going at PSU.
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Florida
They've unfortunately haven't been very good this decade (except 2012). Next year is huge on WM.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:28 am to SpartyGator
I don't get how people are saying Iowa.
They've been doing the same thing for the last decade: have a great season, have high expectations for the next season and under perform, fly under the radar the next year and overachieve. Its a constant cycle. They actually have put together a solid season this year but everybody wrote them off after week one.
They've been doing the same thing for the last decade: have a great season, have high expectations for the next season and under perform, fly under the radar the next year and overachieve. Its a constant cycle. They actually have put together a solid season this year but everybody wrote them off after week one.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:32 am to benhamin5555
Mich, Neb, Miami, UF, Col, VT, PSU
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