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Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:02 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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The age of fedor is over fighters are becoming to balanced and fedor doesn't have the speed/power like he used to
Agree. Age catches up to all and speed is the first thing to go.
The time of smaller heavyweights may be coming to an end. A skilled big man beats a skilled smaller man more often than not.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:02 pm to lsu223
He got destroyed!!!!!!
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:02 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Glad they stopped it. That third would have been a disaster as Fedor would not have quit and he would have been destroyed.
I'm not too sure about that, Silva usually struggles in the later rounds. And from what they were saying, it was 1-1 going into the 3rd.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:02 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Overeem big favorite to this tourney now
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:03 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
well Sakuraba is like 1000
but i did forget Big Nog
but i did forget Big Nog
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:04 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Discuss?
Just wanted to hear your informed opion. no sarcasm You seem to like the guy, and this is two loses in a row. I was more curious if he is just too old or just outmatched.
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Good stoppage.
Yeah, got it. Again, just wondering what you thought about the future of Fedor. Damn, watching now, that face looks like two day old beef cuts. wow.
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Silva had too much size and skill on the ground for anyone to survive an early mount by him in a round. I knew before it started Fedor might not get out from under a mount until the end of the round. When Silva mounted 5 seconds into the 2nd round, I thought he would lose. No way he was getting out from under that fricking giant (with skills).
I'm surprised. It seemed like in his internet clips/ vids, that he could take on men twice his size and make them looks silly. Just my opinion.
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Fedor is one tough SOB though. His face was destroyed and he was nearly choked out twice, then nearly heal hooked.
No one would disagree. No way Fedor would quit. Just has the fighter instinct.
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Some of those punches just didn't have the effect they usually do. Silva's head is just a damn massive mass of thick caveman bone.
shite is like steroids.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:05 pm to xyz
Time for Cro Cop do to the same and retire. Dude has been an embarassment against virtual scrubs. Only loss that was justified was dos Santos. Pride FC has long passed.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:06 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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I'm surprised. It seemed like in his internet clips/ vids, that he could take on men twice his size and make them looks silly. Just my opinion
difference with bigfoot that he is a bjj blackbelt with much more size then big nog that fedor couldn't get a submission on and couldn't get off the bottom. Also bigfoot has an incredible chin which stops fedor from getting a flash ko that hes known for. Fighters are training for MMA now not just one specific field like they did back in the day. The great thing about fedor was he was the most balanced fighter in his time.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:08 pm to Shoulderchoke
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I'm not too sure about that, Silva usually struggles in the later rounds.
He was tired as hell after that 1st round. He knew he was in trouble if he stood up with Fedor. That's why he immediately went for the takedown in the 2nd.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:10 pm to xyz
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He was tired as hell after that 1st round. He knew he was in trouble if he stood up with Fedor. That's why he immediately went for the takedown in the 2nd.
even if he was tired I don't think he would of knocked out silva. Fedor was exhausted after that 2nd round
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:11 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
I think he was outmatched tonight. Like I mentioned before the fight, Fedor has beaten men a lot bigger than him, but he pretty much always had a massive advantage on the gound. Fedor was beating silva to the punch, but having to duck his head, rush in, and not plant his feet to get the power he needed (all thanks to silva's massive reach).
The heavyweights in MMA are evolving. 5 years ago, a guy weighing 265-285 (silva) didn't have skills. Now you have a guy at that size with great BJJ and very good and underrated standup.
I said Fedor could not get mounted early in a round before it happened. Great move by silva to come out and surprise Fedor with the early takedown. Great great plan to stand in the 1st then shoot immediately, since Fedor has never been easy to take down and almost always ends up in top position from any clinch (thanks to sambo).
The heavyweights in MMA are evolving. 5 years ago, a guy weighing 265-285 (silva) didn't have skills. Now you have a guy at that size with great BJJ and very good and underrated standup.
I said Fedor could not get mounted early in a round before it happened. Great move by silva to come out and surprise Fedor with the early takedown. Great great plan to stand in the 1st then shoot immediately, since Fedor has never been easy to take down and almost always ends up in top position from any clinch (thanks to sambo).
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:12 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
I guess Bigfoot is more athletic than Hong Man Choi, but I was expecting some kind of similar outocme. Big oaf v. badass.
Yea, I know I am showing lack of my MMA knwoledge
For the last person that hasn't seen it: LINK
Yea, I know I am showing lack of my MMA knwoledge
For the last person that hasn't seen it: LINK
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:12 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Fedor is a pretender
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:15 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I think with Fedor losing and Strikeforce not having to deal with his people the rest of this tournament.. it might actually go smooth.. keyword: might
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:16 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
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I guess Bigfoot is more athletic than Hong Man Choi, but I was expecting some kind of similar outocme. Big oaf v. badass.
Yea, I know I am showing lack of my MMA knwoledge
For the last person that hasn't seen it:
hong man choi not even close to the skillset of bigfoot silva.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:16 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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He was tired as hell after that 1st round. He knew he was in trouble if he stood up with Fedor. That's why he immediately went for the takedown in the 2nd.
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even if he was tired I don't think he would of knocked out silva. Fedor was exhausted after that 2nd round
I wonder if going for the takedown was due to being tired. Giantism does lead to lack of endurance from the lungs not being able to supply enough oxygen to a massive body.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:17 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I said Fedor could not get mounted early in a round before it happened. Great move by silva to come out and surprise Fedor with the early takedown. Great great plan to stand in the 1st then shoot immediately, since Fedor has never been easy to take down and almost always ends up in top position from any clinch (thanks to sambo).
This is what really surprised me. I thought Fedor would be stronger on the ground. I guess he did what he could, but in reality, all he did was either defend punches or try to escape from his belly. I really just thought he would be able to do more than that. Kudos to bigfoot.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:25 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
Fedor is good on the ground, but almost always ends up in top position due to his sambo background (which is all about throwing people like judo, with some striking).
Silva was just too big to escape mount. Very few are going to escape a mount like that from silva right now. Assuming Reem wins, that is going to be a very interesting second round matchup. Reem might have the size and strength to escape a silva mount, but he might not. Pretty sure he will be looking for it now though.
Silva was just too big to escape mount. Very few are going to escape a mount like that from silva right now. Assuming Reem wins, that is going to be a very interesting second round matchup. Reem might have the size and strength to escape a silva mount, but he might not. Pretty sure he will be looking for it now though.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:34 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I wonder if going for the takedown was due to being tired. Giantism does lead to lack of endurance from the lungs not being able to supply enough oxygen to a massive body.
I really thought Fedor would have sealed it late in the 2nd or beginning of the 3rd due to that thing becoming exhausted. But I guess that bastard knew he was fading fast so he shot into Fedor's legs immediately. After that I knew Fedor was in trouble with the takedown coming so early in the round. It's much easier to maintain fatigue in a dominant mount than standing, especially when you weigh 260+ pounds.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 11:35 pm
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