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re: The ATL Thread: All-Star Break Edition
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:03 am to SwampDonks
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:03 am to SwampDonks
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but everyone got so high on him due to his strikeout rates
that's what i figured
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:03 am to Rohan2Reed
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can someone tell me why Bravetards are so high on Minor. i just don't see it.
I am not that high on him, actually. He will be a pretty good middle of the rotation guy, but he has some work to do. He seems to be improving each year in the system at least. I wouldn't mind parting ways with him in a trade.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:03 am to Rohan2Reed
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a game
Come on R2R, don't base everything off one quick glance. He's got some great stuff and has been locating much better that past few ML starts he had.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:03 am to lsu31always
damn, nice 31 
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:04 am to lsu31always
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I know I wanted Wheeler but San Fran took him.
talk about a guy who needs to cut down on the walks
Ks 10+ per 9 though
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:04 am to okietiger
that's why i was asking. i don't know a lot about Bravos prospects dawg.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:04 am to SwampDonks
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if he keeps his walks down, and learns how to pitch a little bit better instead of throwing, he's going to be great..IMO of course
I am afraid that when he "learns how to pitch" it will be at the expense of his velocity. I believe he will end up being just what we thought he was when he was drafted.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:06 am to volfan30
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I am afraid that when he "learns how to pitch" it will be at the expense of his velocity. I believe he will end up being just what we thought he was when he was drafted.
You're probably right, but I don't expect us to keep him around long enough to find out
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:07 am to SwampDonks
Taking Gilmartin guaranteed that imo.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:07 am to volfan30
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I am afraid that when he "learns how to pitch" it will be at the expense of his velocity.
Taking something off and putting the focus on locating pitches consistently can work very well. Just ask Jurrjens how it's worked out for him.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:13 am to SwampDonks
I just said frick when we took him.
Something I wrote for another site:
Something I wrote for another site:
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As the old adage goes, you can never have too much pitching. That is the philosophy the Braves took into the draft on Tuesday. Holding the 7th overall pick, the highest since the team took Mike Kelly second overall in 1991, the Braves hoped to select local product Zach Wheeler but he was snatched away by the Giants with the pick before. The Braves selected Vanderbilt lefty Mike Minor with the pick.
Minor profiles as a guy with little upside. He currently projects as a number 4 starter. Minor’s stuff is average, he gets by with pitch ability. His fastball sits anywhere from 86 MPH to 89 MPH. His best pitch is a plus change up. He has solid curve and uses a slider for his primary breaking ball. The slider does have good depth on it. His pick off move is probably the best in this year’s draft. Minor is a low risk, low reward guy. What you see is basically what you get. The Braves in my opinion would have been better suited taking a high upside guy here rather than selecting Minor.
The only other pick the Braves had today was the 87th pick. With that pick they turned their attention to the Ivy League and selected Princeton’s David Hale. Hale projects as a power reliever in the pros. His fastball routinely sits at 92-93 but he can dial it up a notch to 95-96 when he needs to and has topped out at 97. He has flashed a plus slider at times and has shown some feel for a change up. He played two ways at Princeton so having him focus on pitching should help him progress more.
The Braves hold the 7th pick in each round the rest of the way. I expect the Braves to return more towards their roots and start to pick more high school kids with high upsides. A few names to keep an eye on for Wednesday’s rounds: Austin Adams, Luke Bailey, Colton Cain, Brody Colvin, Matt Grahm, David Nick, Jonathan Singleton, and Zach Von Rosenburg. I will have a write up on the draft when it is complete.
This post was edited on 7/12/11 at 1:19 am
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:17 am to lsu31always
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Holding the 7th overall pick, the highest since the team took Roberto Kelly second overall in 1991
FAIL
It was Mike Kelly.
Obviously a measly FBF wouldn't catch something like that...
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:19 am to lsu31always
Well written
Your thoughts were the exact same as mine when the pick happened. Minor's change in velocity came out of nowhere
Also interesting to see you hit the nail on the head with some of the other prospects
I just looked up Von Rosenberg since I hadn't heard his name in awhile. This year his ERA is 7.39 in A ball with almost 12 hits per inning.
Your thoughts were the exact same as mine when the pick happened. Minor's change in velocity came out of nowhere
Also interesting to see you hit the nail on the head with some of the other prospects
I just looked up Von Rosenberg since I hadn't heard his name in awhile. This year his ERA is 7.39 in A ball with almost 12 hits per inning.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:27 am to SwampDonks
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almost 12 hits per inning.
Yea thats not possible
Me on our other top 100 pick that year David Hale
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Hale usually sits at 92-93 can hit 95-96 but has topped out at 97.
Plus slider that he has trouble commanding at time that sits at 84-86.
Flashes a feel for a change evey now and then
Needs to learn command in order to make it to the big leagues.
His stuff is undeniable but he needs to command them.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:29 am to lsu31always
per 9, bastard
it's late
it's late
Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:32 am to SwampDonks
Trying to find out what is wrong with ZVR, not finding any info
Posted on 7/12/11 at 9:42 am to lsu31always
I read this article this morning.
What do you guys think? I'd love to see Rasmus in a Braves uni. He has all the tools and the Cards are looking for a pitcher.
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Cards shopping Rasmus?
The St. Louis Cardinals have managed to stay afloat in the National League Central despite a rash of injuries. A team that has used the disabled list 15 times this season is willing to deal, and the trade bait might include the enigmatic Colby Rasmus, reports Joe Strauss of the Post-Dispatch.
Over the next three weeks the Cardinals hope to move aggressively to acquire a pitcher to bolster the back end of its starting rotation or to give the bullpen a jolt. The main bargaining chip could be the previously unavailable Rasmus, who is closing in on arbitration and has shown erratic development as a center fielder. But even with his stock down slightly, Rasmus (.264 BA) could still bring back solid value.
Strauss hears that GM John Mozeliak be willing to call on long-standing interest from the pitching-rich Tampa Bay Rays, who could use another bat.
A trade of Rasmus could indicate the Cardinals are willing to hand the center field job over to Jon Jay, at least temporarily.
What do you guys think? I'd love to see Rasmus in a Braves uni. He has all the tools and the Cards are looking for a pitcher.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 9:43 am to RollDatRoll
Cards want James Shields
Posted on 7/12/11 at 10:37 am to RollDatRoll
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Cards shopping Rasmus?
I said this a couple nights ago but was told no because they were contending.
Posted on 7/12/11 at 11:01 am to Rohan2Reed
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Cards want James Shields
So, Shields or bust?
That's not smart GMing IMO
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