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re: The ATL Thread: Opening Day Edition
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:19 pm to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:19 pm to Pilot Tiger
Betancourt 
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to volfan30
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Strongly disagree with Joe about this being an elite defensive team. Looks like a terrible defensive team to me outside of SS, 1B and decent RF play.
We are 3 innings into a season with 1450+ innings. Why don't you calm down
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to Pilot Tiger
HOSED
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to volfan30
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SS, 1B and decent RF play.
Christian said you forgot a position
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to BamaFan5833
Never forget
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:21 pm to volfan30
quote:we upgraded at premium defensive positions
Strongly disagree with Joe about this being an elite defensive team. Looks like a terrible defensive team to me outside of SS, 1B and decent RF play
2b and catcher
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:22 pm to TheJones
Very bad track records for some of these guys. 3B, CF and LF look to be huge problem areas defensively.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:22 pm to volfan30
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This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:23 pm to Pilot Tiger
dat eephus
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:24 pm to TH03
that looks like what your fastball would look like
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:24 pm to K9
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Christian said you forgot a position
Outside of his showcase arm there are a lot of questions defensively. Obviously an upgrade over Gattis, but he is not known as a very good receiver at all and has been very lazy on balls in the dirt in the minors.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:25 pm to Pilot Tiger
nah it wouldn't have that drop
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:25 pm to volfan30
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Very bad track records for some of these guys. 3B, CF and LF look to be huge problem areas defensively.
If all you've got are complaints about average defense from those positions then we'll be just fine. LF is a defensive hole for most clubs and therefore the threshold for average is super low. 3B is probably below average and our best defensive CF is on the bench to start the season.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:33 pm to volfan30
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Outside of his showcase arm there are a lot of questions defensively. Obviously an upgrade over Gattis, but he is not known as a very good receiver at all and has been very lazy on balls in the dirt in the minors.
You're fear mongering. He's got an 80 arm and all the time in the world to work on framing and blocking would-be pass balls. He's a defensive upgrade and you know it, despite your ability to read a scouting report.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:35 pm to TheJones
Not just scouting report. We saw it some in the majors last year too. I just think he's overrated defensively because of his arm. Would you disagree?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:37 pm to volfan30
HOSED
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:39 pm to volfan30
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Not just scouting report. We saw it some in the majors last year too. I just think he's overrated defensively because of his arm. Would you disagree?
I won't disagree. However, we're still talking about a 23 year old catcher with 30 MLB games to his name and an 80 arm. He's got a couple of years to figure out framing before I label that somewhere near overrated. Anyone thinking he's a Yadi Molina reincarnation will be disappointed, however.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:42 pm to TH03
I've heard similar concerns about his catching. Here's his scouting report from fangraphs:
Kiley McDaniel evacuated all the prospects in the organization. It's an especially good read for a season where we aren't expected to contend.
LINK
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Scouting Report: Bethancourt was getting buzz as soon as instructs after he signed out of Panama at age 16, for his athleticism and ridiculous arm strength that now gets either 7o or 80 grades from scouts. He steadily made progress with adding strength and making contact–sometimes very slowly–but broke though at age 20 in Double-A in 2013, earning a September call-up. He performed similarly well in Triple-A this year, but struggled in 117 big league plate appearances, though the Braves chalk that up to being fatigued. As I mentioned in my Austin Hedges report from the Padres list, a 40 bat with 45 power and 60 defense/arm is a 50 FV and one of the top 30 catchers in the game, provided he’s healthy enough for regular at bats. Bethancourt should be right in that range this year and may never get much higher than that. He isn’t too patient at the plate and that holds him back from getting to his power in games, but he has made strides to be passable in both areas Bethancourt has good feel for the bat head that give him enough offensive potential to rely on everyday but his the carrying tools are on the defensive side. He’s very quick behind the plate and has a quick release that can help him post pop times in the high 1.7s or 1.8s. Bethancourt has made progress in recent years with the finer points of catching, especially in working with pitchers on a plan to attack hitters. Summation: Bethancourt will get a chance to be the starting catcher for the Braves this year after long being called the catcher of the future. A.J. Pierzynski will be there as a backup in case Bethancourt’s bat really falters, but his defense allows him to learn on the job and still be starting quality.
Kiley McDaniel evacuated all the prospects in the organization. It's an especially good read for a season where we aren't expected to contend.
LINK
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:42 pm to TH03
These weak ground balls sure are putting a lot of pressure on the D!
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:52 pm to volfan30
Very nice turn.
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