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re: Tiger Woods on HGH...
Posted on 3/22/08 at 7:30 am to Louie T
Posted on 3/22/08 at 7:30 am to Louie T
that is where you and I differ.
there are different types of strength. also you dont need huge muscles to be strong.
just watch a 72.5 kg bulgarian lifter clean and jerk 200 kilograms and you see what i am talking about
there are different types of strength. also you dont need huge muscles to be strong.
just watch a 72.5 kg bulgarian lifter clean and jerk 200 kilograms and you see what i am talking about
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Posted on 3/22/08 at 8:13 am to lsucoonass
If I had to bet my life on it then I would side with Tiger experimenting with it.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 8:21 am to Rockerbraves
okay so what if he did or has.
you still have to work your arse off.
you just dont inject yourself in the arse and then go the sleep and dont train. it doesnt work that way unless you just want to look a little prettier.
you still have to work your arse off.
you just dont inject yourself in the arse and then go the sleep and dont train. it doesnt work that way unless you just want to look a little prettier.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 8:29 am to lsucoonass
are beta blockers used out there? Sure would help me after my first 3 putt. 
Posted on 3/22/08 at 8:39 am to Rockerbraves
if medical necessity is provided i doubt you would get banned for that.
now epo and blood doping is a different story.
now epo and blood doping is a different story.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 9:25 am to lsucoonass
This thread makes me 
.
If ANYTHING, HGH and steriods in golf would hurt a golfer like Tiger Woods. Golf is a game of feel, flexibility, and rhythm. If you are constantly building muscle mass, you:
A. Become MUCH less flexible.
B. Lose the feel of what your perfect swing feels like.
C. Become MUCH more prone to injury.
A golfer really doesn't benefit from getting bigger except off the tee(where Tiger has never needed help with distance) or in the rough(which is maybe 5 shots a round).
Let alone the fact that putting is about half of the game which there is NO debate is ALL feel, no strength.
. If ANYTHING, HGH and steriods in golf would hurt a golfer like Tiger Woods. Golf is a game of feel, flexibility, and rhythm. If you are constantly building muscle mass, you:
A. Become MUCH less flexible.
B. Lose the feel of what your perfect swing feels like.
C. Become MUCH more prone to injury.
A golfer really doesn't benefit from getting bigger except off the tee(where Tiger has never needed help with distance) or in the rough(which is maybe 5 shots a round).
Let alone the fact that putting is about half of the game which there is NO debate is ALL feel, no strength.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 9:32 am to KosmoCramer
but you dont have to use hgh to gain 50 pounds.
the also enhance recovery.
the also enhance recovery.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 10:49 am to KosmoCramer
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If ANYTHING, HGH and steriods in golf would hurt a golfer like Tiger Woods
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A. Become MUCH less flexible.
not if work on flexibility as well
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B. Lose the feel of what your perfect swing feels like.
Tiger has changed his swing twice since he joined the tour
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C. Become MUCH more prone to injury.
myth for HGH
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A golfer really doesn't benefit from getting bigger except off the tee
You don't think Tiger has an advantage when he's hitting pitching wedge into greens and other guys are hitting 6 and 7 irons? Get real.
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which is maybe 5 shots a round
that's the difference between winning and not making the cut
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Let alone the fact that putting is about half of the game which there is NO debate is ALL feel, no strength.
What atrocious logic. So because puttig is "half of the game", getting better on the other half wouldn't be an advantage? Right. Besides, putting is actually closer to 1/3 of the game.
Like I said, I don't think Tiger is juicing because I don't think he really has to. But to think being stronger is not an advantage in golf where the object is to get in the hole hundreds of yards away in as few strokes possible, is just plain old fricking stupid.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 10:51 am to Hot Carl
thanks Hot Carl. 
Posted on 3/22/08 at 10:55 am to lsucoonass
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but you dont have to use hgh to gain 50 pounds.
exactly. You can take different doses.
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the also enhance recovery.
Without question. I think if Tiger ever dabbled with it, it was when he was recovering from his knee injury a few years ago.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 12:49 pm to Hot Carl
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I think if Tiger ever dabbled with it, it was when he was recovering from his knee injury a few years ago
yeah, but when he started admiring himself in the mirror....would he stop?
What percentage of those named in the Baseball report stated they started taking it for rehab purposes.
Also, has his attitude changed? Is he more fist pumping now?
A birdie? Is that rare?
Posted on 3/22/08 at 1:01 pm to Iona Fan Man
i actually got a lesson from tiger and asked him how much he worked out
dude is in the gym doing full body workouts 5 times a week
dude is in the gym doing full body workouts 5 times a week
Posted on 3/22/08 at 1:06 pm to lsucoonass
quote:Exactly; golf strength and muscle mass/lifting strength are two totally different things.
that is where you and I differ.
there are different types of strength. also you dont need huge muscles to be strong.
just watch a 72.5 kg bulgarian lifter clean and jerk 200 kilograms and you see what i am talking about
Posted on 3/22/08 at 1:07 pm to ThePoo
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doing full body workouts 5 times a week
and he is unique for this? BTW...Skinny guys can't build mass
Posted on 3/22/08 at 1:09 pm to Iona Fan Man
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BTW...Skinny guys can't build mass
Posted on 3/22/08 at 1:34 pm to Iona Fan Man
quote:in the golf world...absolutely
and he is unique for this?
ive stood next to the guy... he is solid and toned...but he isnt busting out of his shirt by any means
he never use to lift weights when he 1st started out, until one day he it the ball into some thick rough and nearly broke his wrist trying to knock it out...then developed a slight phobia whenswinging in the rough and decided he needed to fix
ETA: building huge amounts of mass is a hindrance for the golf swing...he does a lot of core excercises, build strength but not overwhelming amounts of mass.
This post was edited on 3/22/08 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/22/08 at 5:36 pm to ThePoo
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ETA: building huge amounts of mass is a hindrance for the golf swing...he does a lot of core excercises, build strength but not overwhelming amounts of mass
that's what they said about baseball for the last 80 years. hell I believe there were more pitchers on the mitchell report than any other position.
I win.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 5:40 pm to Iona Fan Man
of course there were more pitchers on that report
anyone with a slight physiology background would know pitchers need it more than any other position for recovery enhancement.
same thing with golf. it isn't used primarily for muscle mass but for enhanced recovery. if you want to build mass dbol was popular back in the day. i dont know which anabolic is best for just mass.
but to suggest when he is on hgh from 21 to 31 is crazy. i dont think he would need it until his late 30's once the testosterone levels start to drop as well as gh levels.
anyone with a slight physiology background would know pitchers need it more than any other position for recovery enhancement.
same thing with golf. it isn't used primarily for muscle mass but for enhanced recovery. if you want to build mass dbol was popular back in the day. i dont know which anabolic is best for just mass.
but to suggest when he is on hgh from 21 to 31 is crazy. i dont think he would need it until his late 30's once the testosterone levels start to drop as well as gh levels.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 6:37 pm to Hot Carl
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You don't think Tiger has an advantage when he's hitting pitching wedge into greens and other guys are hitting 6 and 7 irons? Get real.
john daly must sprinkle HGH on his cornflakes.
Posted on 3/22/08 at 6:37 pm to Rebel
Damn Rebel has been on a roll lately.
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