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re: UFC 92 prediction thread
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:21 pm to TheOcean
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:21 pm to TheOcean
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GSP/Penn 1 definitely was not a humiliation. Great fight although I don't see how it was a split decision. If I remember correctly the rounds were pretty clear cut.
Bingo, +1, but the Penn-fighting-outta-weight-class-aplologists must always clarify his noble attempts and losses..it's becoming a pattern.
But, I agree Penn is inceredibly talented, deserves the respect for attempting such matchups, and probably does as well any fighter in the world for taking on such concessions.
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:21 pm to Maximus
Liddell
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:25 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Bingo, +1, but the Penn-fighting-outta-weight-class-aplologists must always clarify his noble attempts and losses..it's becoming a pattern.
No one is aplogising for anything. Just stating how ignorant it is to say GSP dominated him in their first fight.
For the record, I am a big GSP fan.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:31 pm to Cash
Maximus, I hate you for posting all those pics, my computer just unfroze
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:35 pm to coullion
Forrest tapping?
This post was edited on 12/28/08 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:35 pm to Cash
OK he didn't dominate, but he was well in control for the vast majority, I had GSP for the limits at a number of outs, and despite his face being pulped a bit, and a fraction of a second when rocked, I wasn't really worried, he kept Penn at bay, and seemed well more in control than a 2-1 round verdict..imho
And of the 3-3 non-155 lifetime mark for Penn, Renzo Gracie has but 2 KOs lifetime, thus would've been an underdog to BJ Penn at 185, whom has mad submission defense skills, and Rodrigo Gracie I can't find his lifetime numbers, but probably like the rest of the BJJ Gracies despite a better and more muscular upper build, is probably a submission guy too?
And of the 3-3 non-155 lifetime mark for Penn, Renzo Gracie has but 2 KOs lifetime, thus would've been an underdog to BJ Penn at 185, whom has mad submission defense skills, and Rodrigo Gracie I can't find his lifetime numbers, but probably like the rest of the BJJ Gracies despite a better and more muscular upper build, is probably a submission guy too?
This post was edited on 12/28/08 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:37 pm to Cash
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Couture wouldn't stand with him.
Rashad has very good footwork and is lightyears faster than Couture. Add in his wrestling background and I think Couture would have a very hard time getting him down.
His wrestling may be better, but like with Lidell, I think Couture would be forced into a standup match where he would fare very poorly. Couture doesn't have the chin or reflexes to survive very long with a power puncher like Evans.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:38 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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OK he didn't dominate, but he was well in control for the vast majority,
It was a split decision- 29-28. 29-28, and 28-29. Yeah he was totally in control.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:38 pm to Cash
He said specifically that he wasn't tapping that it was just his flailing response to getting punched when he was out of it. Seems more embarrassing to admit that then to tap IMO.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:38 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Bingo, +1
bingo +1 to someone who totally disagrees with you, nice
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:39 pm to aibo synthetic
Rampage if hungry, focused, and not sloppy, beats Evans, imho. Great fight either way.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:40 pm to Maximus
BJ Penn Noble Loss Apologists are legion, you guys have plenty of company.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:41 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
"I went to the bar and he went to the hospital"
-Penn after GSP/Penn I
-Penn after GSP/Penn I
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:41 pm to aibo synthetic
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Rashad has very good footwork and is lightyears faster than Couture. Add in his wrestling background and I think Couture would have a very hard time getting him down.
Sean "crane kick" Salmon took Rashad down several times.
Rashad now thinking he is a striker makes him even more prone to takedowns.
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His wrestling may be better, but like with Lidell, I think Couture would be forced into a standup match where he would fare very poorly.
Liddell has the best sprawl in mma and is just as big as Couture. You can't compare Rashad and Liddell's takedown defence.
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Couture doesn't have the chin
agreed
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to survive very long with a power puncher like Evans.
Power puncher? He has one KO from a standing punch in 14 career fights.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:41 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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and seemed well more in control than a 2-1 round verdict..imho
your opinion is clearly fricked up as we've pointed out
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:42 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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He said specifically that he wasn't tapping that it was just his flailing response to getting punched when he was out of it. Seems more embarrassing to admit that then to tap IMO.
He also said he didn't remember what happened so how does he remember if he tapped or not?
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:44 pm to Cash
His striking has just developed in his last 3 or 4 fights.
If you know what you're looking for, you could see very good power in his right hand every time he threw it, connect or not.
I am not going very far back when I assess Evan's skillset, because he has progressed so much between each fight. The way he moves now, he is going to be hard to take down.
If you know what you're looking for, you could see very good power in his right hand every time he threw it, connect or not.
I am not going very far back when I assess Evan's skillset, because he has progressed so much between each fight. The way he moves now, he is going to be hard to take down.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:45 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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BJ Penn Noble Loss Apologists are legion, you guys have plenty of company.
yeah, every other person in this thread is a penn apologist because you talked out of your arse about a fight you never saw
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:49 pm to Maximus
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every other person in this thread is a penn apologist because you talked out of your arse about a fight you never saw
Often a fighter will take a trip to the hospital after a fight in which he dominated, while the dominated fighter will pass on the ambulance and head straight to the after party.
Posted on 12/28/08 at 2:53 pm to aibo synthetic
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If you know what you're looking for, you could see very good power in his right hand every time he threw it, connect or not.
Power punching is something you have or you don't. Sure you can improve it, but you can't from average to throwing bricks. Look at all of his fights on TUF, his fight with Bisping, Bonnar and Hogar. He had plenty of clean shots on chins in those fights and had to get decision in all of them.
One KO from a standing punch in his career doesn't make Rashad = Tyson from the '80s. I don't care what he calls himself now.
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