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Posted on 5/23/12 at 11:53 am to barry
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Even though they rely on 1 or 2 pitches?
What can you do with 2 pitches?
Signed
Mariano Rivera
And if a baseball game only lasted 2 innings, Mariano would be the best. If he had to pitch a second and third time through the order, he wouldn't be first ballot HOF 5 years after he doesn't return to the game.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 11:54 am to Rohan2Reed
Craig Kimbrel's shite is nasty
Posted on 5/23/12 at 11:54 am to Rohan2Reed
You need to make 2 threads. The guys I threw out have nastiest 1-2 pitches. You threw out guys with nastiest array of pitches 3-4+.
Hard to compare relievers vs starters in this.
Hard to compare relievers vs starters in this.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 11:57 am to okietiger
Stuff is stuff, plus guys usually only have 2 "great" pitches anyway
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:00 pm to okietiger
quote:
You need to make 2 threads. The guys I threw out have nastiest 1-2 pitches. You threw out guys with nastiest array of pitches 3-4+.
Hard to compare relievers vs starters in this.
I agree with this. See my comment about Mariano. Overall, how many people on this list could go out and pitch 9 innings still throwing as nasty as the first inning on any given outing? I'm thinking just Verlander
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:09 pm to Tiger in Detroit
quote:Sabathia in recent years, but he's past his prime.
I agree with this. See my comment about Mariano. Overall, how many people on this list could go out and pitch 9 innings still throwing as nasty as the first inning on any given outing? I'm thinking just Verlander
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:10 pm to Lester Earl
Carlos Marmol when he is throwing strikes.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:17 pm to TigerStripes06
quote:
Neftali Feliz is a good one nobody has mentioned.
ORLY?
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:20 pm to reddman
quote:
Doesn't make it any less nasty.
Huh if Gio's stuff is not over the plate how do you call it nasty ?
When and if he finds the plate more often he will be in the discussion
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:22 pm to Louie T
quote:
I agree with this. See my comment about Mariano. Overall, how many people on this list could go out and pitch 9 innings still throwing as nasty as the first inning on any given outing? I'm thinking just Verlander
Sabathia in recent years, but he's past his prime.
I was just looking at some stats. Sabathia still is doing OK. He averages 7+ innings per game and is still up there in strike outs wins and a decent 3.78 ERA.
Gio is pitching amazing, averaging 1.3 SO per inning, 1.99 ERA and 6-1 record. The reason I say his stuff isn't as nasty as Verlander or Felix is because he can only pitch on average 6 innings before he has to be pulled.
Right now, Verlander averages almost 8 innings per game, strikes out a lot of batters, has an amazing 2.14 ERA and a 5-1 record. I still remember his one loss to Tampa. He picthed a shutout into the 9th inning only throwing 80 pitches to that point. A few batters reached base and he changed his approach and blew it.
All pitchers on the list are comparable, but I think Verlander is just a little more special where he is in his career including 2 no hitters and has come very close on a few more including this past Friday.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:45 pm to Tiger in Detroit
Brandon Morrow
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:46 pm to Tiger in Detroit
quote:
The reason I say his stuff isn't as nasty as Verlander or Felix is because he can only pitch on average 6 innings before he has to be pulled.
Doesnt make sense.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:46 pm to Rohan2Reed
Verlander - Least hittable
Darvish - Best slider/curve
Strasburg - Nastiest overall arsenal
Kershaw
Felix - Most movement
Halladay
Weaver - Weirdest delivery
Lincecum - Best changeup
There are too many pitchers to narrow it down to a top 5.
Darvish - Best slider/curve
Strasburg - Nastiest overall arsenal
Kershaw
Felix - Most movement
Halladay
Weaver - Weirdest delivery
Lincecum - Best changeup
There are too many pitchers to narrow it down to a top 5.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:47 pm to Rohan2Reed
Charlie Hough
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:49 pm to Rohan2Reed
Verlander
CC
Darvish
Kershaw
Halladay
CC
Darvish
Kershaw
Halladay
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:53 pm to Nashty
Vicente Padilla's eephus pitch.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:56 pm to e2drummer
quote:
There are too many pitchers to narrow it down to a top 5.
This
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:28 pm to Tiger in Detroit
James Shields deserves a mention
Posted on 5/23/12 at 2:08 pm to damonster
I can't believe Josh Johnson hasn't been mentioned
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