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re: Blackfish
Posted on 10/24/13 at 9:15 am to Billy Mays
Posted on 10/24/13 at 9:15 am to Billy Mays
Definitely recording/watching this...been wanting to see it for a while now.
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 9:22 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 10/24/13 at 9:45 am to PsychTiger
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I thought this was a GoT thread.
I am disappoint.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:06 am to CocomoLSU
There's just something intriguing about those large dolphins... might need to watch Free Willy again afterwards 
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 10:12 am
Posted on 10/24/13 at 8:30 pm to Burt Reynolds
Bump. Anyone watching on CNN now?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:47 pm to Tigerfan56
After watching, I'm still not sure if I have a stance of the captivity issue - there seems to be pros and cons.
On one hand, the film made SeaWorld seem very cavalier and pompous about the value of their trainers and the value of the whales. On the other hand, SeaWorld has taught the public to care about Orcas.
Either way, a great watch.
On one hand, the film made SeaWorld seem very cavalier and pompous about the value of their trainers and the value of the whales. On the other hand, SeaWorld has taught the public to care about Orcas.
Either way, a great watch.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:55 pm to Burt Reynolds
I saw it and really enjoyed it. Amazing how F'ed up that shite is. Great documentary!
Posted on 10/25/13 at 12:17 am to RebelOP
watching it right now. I remember the accident in 04 and 06. They said the whale was just playing and let them go when they realized they were being too rough and didn't mean to hurt them. 
there is a reason they never hurt anyone in the wild. Think of it this way, you get put in a 10x10 room for 20 years away from anyone you know, and the only thing you have is your thoughts and these random people feeding you pieces of chicken. Sometime you are going to snap and strike back from pent up aggression, it is natural biology.
there is a reason they never hurt anyone in the wild. Think of it this way, you get put in a 10x10 room for 20 years away from anyone you know, and the only thing you have is your thoughts and these random people feeding you pieces of chicken. Sometime you are going to snap and strike back from pent up aggression, it is natural biology.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 7:39 am to fightingtigers98
Watched it last night.
Awesome doc. It's crazy to me how intelligent KW's are. Amazing animals.
And yeah, I'm kinda torn on the SeaWorld thing. Seems like once an animal shows signs of aggression, it's time to let them go. Seems easy enough. Also seems like they could just save tons of Tilikum's sperm and let him go back into the wild...sort of a win/win.
It was amazing to me how easy it was (is?) to become a trainer though. Shocking really.
Awesome doc. It's crazy to me how intelligent KW's are. Amazing animals.
And yeah, I'm kinda torn on the SeaWorld thing. Seems like once an animal shows signs of aggression, it's time to let them go. Seems easy enough. Also seems like they could just save tons of Tilikum's sperm and let him go back into the wild...sort of a win/win.
It was amazing to me how easy it was (is?) to become a trainer though. Shocking really.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 7:56 am to CocomoLSU
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It was amazing to me how easy it was (is?) to become a trainer though. Shocking really.
Yeah that was kind of bizarre. It's almost like they are treated like stuntmen
They whole "they never hurt anyone in the wild" argument is kind of flawed, because humans aren't near them in the wild very often. The amount of time a trainer spends in the water is millions of times more than humans spend in the water in open ocean.
Also, just because there is no record of wild attacks, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I imagine if a human was standing on an ice floe in the middle of the artic the whales would hunt it like anything else
Posted on 10/25/13 at 8:08 am to ladytiger118
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In between this and the Sand Snake thread on the OT today, these threads makes me realize how much of a nerd I am.
I like nerdy girls
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:27 am to Billy Mays
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Yeah that was kind of bizarre. It's almost like they are treated like stuntmen
It was almost like you just signed up to be an orca trainer...no training really, just sign up and get in the water if you have a good personality and get along with the animals.
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Also, just because there is no record of wild attacks, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I imagine if a human was standing on an ice floe in the middle of the artic the whales would hunt it like anything else
There is one recorded instance where a surfer was bitten by an orca. I was reading all about this shite yesterday...Wiki has a good list of all the recorded orca attacks.
Also, I watched a video yesterday about how when they were filming Frozen Planet, tehre were a couple of times where the orcas dove at the boats to try to capsize them into the water. Not with the same intensity/fortitude as when they were doing the wave attacks on the seals, but still..
I love how they just keep popping their heads out of the water to look at the seal.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:37 am to Billy Mays
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After watching, I'm still not sure if I have a stance of the captivity issue - there seems to be pros and cons.
I got the Cliffs Notes from my wife this morning and it sounds like SeaWorld is pretty stupid. Whether you care about the captivity angle or not, it doesn't sound like Orcas are the smartest choice to use as entertainment. This is closer to working with tigers, only instead of animal trainers with decades of experience, you have a lot of high school/college aged kids working with them.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:42 am to CocomoLSU
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Also seems like they could just save tons of Tilikum's sperm and let him go back into the wild...sort of a win/win.
I'm not sure you can release him to the wild after living in captivity for 30 years. In fact, on the program after the doc aired there was a conservationist that mentioned the older whales would have to be released into sea pins and the younger orcas could be returned to the wild.
Perhaps releasing him was an option after he first killed in '91.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:43 am to TigerinATL
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This is closer to working with tigers, only instead of animal trainers with decades of experience, you have a lot of high school/college aged kids working with them.
And in a much less human-friendly environment.
With tigers, you could still have some sort of protection (no matter how crappy). With KW's we, as humans, are completely out of our element in their world (the water). We're pretty much completely helpless.
There was one scene last night where it was a clip of a KW toying with a guy in the water. The KW would go under and pop up completely on the other side of the guy (from the opposite direction) in like half a second. The dude was confused and scared out of his mind. And I'm sitting there thinking about how incredible it is that an animal that size can be so fast and graceful (and precise). Pretty terrifying thought to be in the water with an 8 ton animal that wants to hurt you...and is cognizant of what it is doing (and that it's a bad thing).
This post was edited on 10/25/13 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:46 am to skullhawk
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I'm not sure you can release him to the wild after living in captivity for 30 years. In fact, on the program after the doc aired there was a conservationist that mentioned the older whales would have to be released into sea pins and the younger orcas could be returned to the wild.
I bet you could.
The point they kept making in the doc when he kept getting attacked and ganged up on by the females was that in the wild, he'd have endless waters to escape to (instead of being inside a concrete pen with the attackers).
Something tells me that they know the difference between captivity and freedom. I feel like they are much smarter than I thought they were...when they were talking about how each pod basically has their own, unique language that isn't shared by any other pods in the world, I was
. That's amazing.Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:53 am to CocomoLSU
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The point they kept making in the doc when he kept getting attacked and ganged up on by the females was that in the wild, he'd have endless waters to escape to (instead of being inside a concrete pen with the attackers).
But that example was 20+ years ago at Sealand when he first killed. Now they keep him in a pin way too small and take him out so they can jack him off.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:56 am to TigerinATL
The main problem with Orcas compared to other animals is that you really can't replicate their environment.
Tigers at zoos have these constructed jungle settings and the size disparity isn't as great compared to a giant, intelligent dolphin in a tank of water. You can't replicate a bay in Washington State or the Oceans of Iceland.
It's almost like the KWs are in a bathtub, relatively speaking.
Tigers at zoos have these constructed jungle settings and the size disparity isn't as great compared to a giant, intelligent dolphin in a tank of water. You can't replicate a bay in Washington State or the Oceans of Iceland.
It's almost like the KWs are in a bathtub, relatively speaking.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:01 am to CocomoLSU
I dvr'd it last night and will watch all of it today. I saw bits and pieces of it while it was on last night though. Saw the part where SeaWorld would separate the mother orcas from their young to send them to other parks. Wow....just watching that was heartbreaking, seeing the mother orcas grieve like that.
I have a feeling once I watch the whole thing I'm never gonna want to set foot at a SeaWorld park again in my life.
I have a feeling once I watch the whole thing I'm never gonna want to set foot at a SeaWorld park again in my life.
Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:59 am to lsunurse
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I have a feeling once I watch the whole thing I'm never gonna want to set foot at a SeaWorld park again in my life.
My wife and I felt this way after watching.
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