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re: Breaking Bad...
Posted on 5/15/09 at 5:09 am to TigerMyth36
Posted on 5/15/09 at 5:09 am to TigerMyth36
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Walt is at a crossroads. He is awfully close to becoming unlikable which will ruin the show in my opinion.
Agreed. There are times already where I don't like him. The incident at the airport where he lied like hell (again) to his wife and the tequila incident with Hank and Walt, Jr., readily come to mind. I also despise the fact that his activities are putting his unsuspecting family in grave danger.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 5:18 am
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Posted on 5/15/09 at 8:19 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I think that might be one of the underlying themes of the show. People were ok with Walt when he was sick and doing these things. Will they be ok if his health improves and he does what he is doing? Why was it ok when he was sick?
Posted on 5/15/09 at 8:36 am to Rollie Fingers
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Will they be ok if his health improves and he does what he is doing?
I won't be. His motives will not longer be altruistic. They'll be selfish.
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Why was it ok when he was sick?
Drastic times call for drastic measures. Perhaps this may be a bit hypocritical, but I would go easier on him if he was a dying man trying to provide some financial comfort to his family, post mortem. Of course I'm saying this purely from the standpoint of somebody who's never had a loved one screwed up on crystal meth.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 8:43 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
In Walt's case, his financial difficulties seem to be the result of his own poor decision to leave the company and people that became extremely successful. How sympathetic should we be for him? Everyone gets sick at one point or another. Do the normal rules of society no longer apply to these people because they are ill? I am starting to think the Walt character is going to become a bigger and bigger douche to make the audience recognize it was wrong to think what he was doing at the beginning of the show was ok.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 9:36 am to Rollie Fingers
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In Walt's case, his financial difficulties seem to be the result of his own poor decision to leave the company and people that became extremely successful.
Hindsight's 20/20. Regardless, I won't give him much of a pass if he was cooking meth because of financial difficulties.
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How sympathetic should we be for him? Everyone gets sick at one point or another.
Not with a terminal illness.
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Do the normal rules of society no longer apply to these people because they are ill?
Which is why I said I was being hypocritical. I'd show mercy on someone who was dying of a terminal illness, but wouldn't on others. That's just me.
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I am starting to think the Walt character is going to become a bigger and bigger douche to make the audience recognize it was wrong to think what he was doing at the beginning of the show was ok.
Which is why I think Skyler is the real "hero" of this show. Sure she can be annoying, but she seems to be a decent, well-meaning person who wants the best for her family. Look at what SHE'S going through. First there's all the problems and issues with Walt. Then there's her 16-year old son with CP who's trying to establish his identity. Throw in being a hormonal 40 year old with an unplanned baby on they way plus a kleptomanic sister and you've got one hell of an emotional cocktail. We won't even mention her issues at work. If she can make it through all of this without ending up in the insane asylum then she's one hell of a woman.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/15/09 at 9:46 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I agree. She is a strong character. If something bad happens to her because of Walt, I do not think the audience will be able to sympathize with Walt anymore.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 9:51 am to Rollie Fingers
Walt becoming more and more of a badass is fine with me, I like it, shows that he's tired of people stepping all over him, and I agree that Skyler is a strong woman but that she is a typical whining, manupilative bitch, also. so I could understand Walt going off.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 9:53 am to Rollie Fingers
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She is a strong character.
I agree, which is why I find her behavior around Ted surprising. However, she's probably an emotional wreck by now.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 9:57 am to tubucoco
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Walt becoming more and more of a badass is fine with me...
He's becoming a dope-peddling douchebag, who's put his entire family in danger. What a stand-up guy!
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Skyler is a strong woman but that she is a typical whining, manupilative bitch...
How is she manipulative? It seems to me she just wants her husband to come clean and be honest with her. He won't so she's becoming increasingly suspicious. She knows things aren't right and that something is going on.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/15/09 at 10:04 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
The way Walt treats her with utter disdain is why I have become anti-Walt. Walt has cancer but he has completely neglected his pregnant wife.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 10:15 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:well he is standing up to the douchebags in that business that was walkin all over him and his a-hole young partner, if your in that line of business you have to develop some backbone more sooner than later or you will be dead. the show looks like they have made the choice to show that transformation and take it in that direction after all this is just entertainment, some may not like it, but I do.
He's becoming a dope-pedaling douchebag, who's put his entire family in danger. What a stand-up guy!
as for Skyler she's just like any annoying, constantly complaining arse housewife looking for a reason to do something she's been wanting to do, Walt has been an arse for not comin clean with her, but him knowin how annoying she is is probably reason enough to keep it from her, and as a result would rather take the gamble with his families lives than tell her, but I don't care it's just good entertainment that me and you don't see eye to eye on, and that is what it is about.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/15/09 at 10:16 am to Rollie Fingers
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Walt becoming more and more of a badass is fine with me, I like it, shows that he's tired of people stepping all over him, and I agree that Skyler is a strong woman but that she is a typical whining, manupilative bitch, also. so I could understand Walt going off
i agree with this. I know alot of you guys don't but i'm in the minority cause this is my feelings about it.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 10:17 am to Rollie Fingers
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The way Walt treats her with utter disdain is why I have become anti-Walt. Walt has cancer but he has completely neglected his pregnant wife.
I feel the same way, although I'm not yet completely "anti-Walt." Skyler doesn't deserve to be treated the way Walt's treating her.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/17/09 at 10:25 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
What an opening scene. 
Posted on 5/17/09 at 10:34 pm to dr smartass phd
I think walt completes the 1.2 mil transaction. I also think jane is gonna get took out for trying to blackmail walt. I think Jesse is going to od. I also like skylar more after this episode because she didn't just hop on the bosses cock. Any other ideas?
Posted on 5/18/09 at 7:04 am to blockburna
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I also like skylar more after this episode because she didn't just hop on the bosses cock.
I thought she looked really uncomfortable doing her "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" routine. I hope she doesn't fool around with Ted, but you never know. Skyler is my favorite character.
The ONLY thing I've predicted correctly about this show is that Walt was going to miss the birth of his daughter. I also guessed that Jane was going to be bad news.
Posted on 5/18/09 at 7:53 am to dr smartass phd
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What an opening scene.
Combo got set-up big time, didn't he! He was caught completely off-guard by that kid and was so surprised he couldn't even draw his own weapon.
This post was edited on 5/18/09 at 8:29 am
Posted on 5/18/09 at 8:47 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
WTF was up with that opening scene. Was that little guy in a gang initiation or something??
I really thought it would be Hank he was meeting at the restaurant.
I felt like I was reading the ending lines of intervention when Jane was getting high. You know at the end how they tell you they relapsed like a week after rehab.
Also, how the frick has Jesse been a meth dealer and junkie and not once did he ever shoot up.
Walt had a look of FML when he read that text from Skylar. Also, why did Skylar go back to work if she said she wouldn't be a part of this. Does she still want a piece of Ted? Maybe the baby will get her mind right.
eta: Is walt gonna keep Jesse's share, is that what we gathered from the previews?
I really thought it would be Hank he was meeting at the restaurant.
I felt like I was reading the ending lines of intervention when Jane was getting high. You know at the end how they tell you they relapsed like a week after rehab.
Also, how the frick has Jesse been a meth dealer and junkie and not once did he ever shoot up.
Walt had a look of FML when he read that text from Skylar. Also, why did Skylar go back to work if she said she wouldn't be a part of this. Does she still want a piece of Ted? Maybe the baby will get her mind right.
eta: Is walt gonna keep Jesse's share, is that what we gathered from the previews?
This post was edited on 5/18/09 at 8:51 am
Posted on 5/18/09 at 8:58 am to Croacka
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Also, why did Skylar go back to work if she said she wouldn't be a part of this.
I was wondering the same thing. She looked like she really didn't want to be there, though, judging by the way she sat in her car. I really can't figure her out. I think her mind is so messed-up she doesn't know what to think or what to do. Perhaps she realizes that returning to work was not such a good idea after all, but believes her family needs her income.
Did you catch the look on her face when Walt showed up late for the sonogram? I'm sure he'll face the Redheaded Wrath for missing the birth of their child.
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eta: Is walt gonna keep Jesse's share, is that what we gathered from the previews?
Did you gather from the previews that the deal went down with Gus? I thought I heard Walt tell Jesse that Jesse's foolishness cost them the deal.
This post was edited on 5/18/09 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/18/09 at 9:17 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Did you gather from the previews that the deal went down with Gus?
Yes, it seems that Walt was holding Jesse's money because he was pissed off about him not answering the phone and being high when he needed him.
BTW, I know it's risky, but if Walt had was asked to meet again at Pollos, he should have had the meth with him or made sure that Jesse was sitting with it not far away. Live and learn.
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