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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Other than Batman Begins, has there been an origin story that really nailed emotional resonance of the character. 


Spider-Man with the tobester
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:13 pm to
IronMan?

Capt America?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:15 pm to
I definitely did. The soundtrack outside of that song was pretty solid but it was just so out of place and empty. If you want a cheesy pop song to play there, pick something that will have that effect. Hero by Mariah Carey, The Sign, or All I Wanna Do.

Seriously that song at that moment was a horrible choice. They tried way too hard and completely missed the mark with it.
Posted by tigersaint26
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:15 pm to
This movie just seemed like a Supergirl episode. Entertaining but definitely had the "girl power" vibe.

The only white male that wasn't a bad guy in it was Coulson and he really didn't do much.
Look at the rest of the white guys in the movie-all bad:
1. Her dad
2. Dude she stole the motorcycle from
3. Air Force Academy guys that said she'd never make it
4. Her Kree mentor.

Just like Supergirl, all the people needing to help her are women. Her friend didn't have husband and she had a daughter. The AI came to her as a woman. The scientist on Earth was a woman.

Music was almost all 90's women

It was a decent popcorn flick, but overall it was just meh. I liked Wonder Woman a ton more than this movie
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Did anyone else bust out laughing when No Doubts "just a girl" came on?

I laughed to myself. I didn't want to be a dick and laugh out loud.

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Did anyone NOT see her going Indiana Jones on Judge Law in their final duel?

Yes. That was telegraphed pretty hard. It was either going to be Han shooting first or a one punch in mid-sentence thing.

Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:24 pm to
It was a shitty attempt at mirroring the Numerian Star scene in Winter Soldier as well. St. Pierre’s character challenged Steve to fight him without his shield to prove he was a better fighter than him and he did. He had no obligation to do so and he knew he was going to kick his arse, but that was his character - you let a man have his pride and defeat him with honor. Really highlights the differences between the characters.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:30 pm to
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IronMan? 

Capt America?


I liked these and Spiderman with Maguire, but I'm not sure emotional resonance is what I'd say about any.

Compare any of those 3 with the emotional journey in other comic movies like Batman Begins, Logan, etc. I found those two way more resonant and complex than anything in Spiderman, IM or CA. That's not to say there aren't emotional moments, but not deep ones...at least for me.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:36 pm to
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It was a shitty attempt at mirroring the Numerian Star scene in Winter Soldier as well. St. Pierre’s character challenged Steve to fight him without his shield to prove he was a better fighter than him and he did. He had no obligation to do so and he knew he was going to kick his arse, but that was his character - you let a man have his pride and defeat him with honor. Really highlights the differences between the characters.




frick Jude Law. It was 100% the right thing to shoot his arse right then and there. He didn't deserve any kind of honorable fight. He fricking kidnapped and brain washed her.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:38 pm to
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CM is told in a 100% linear structure. We never move back and forward in time. The first flashbacks are triggered by an alien device, but they are interactive. Carole and the aliens have some amount of autonomy within them.

The other "flashback" comes from a black box recording that multiple characters are listening to.

The movie starts with Carol with Kree and moves in a straight line all the way to the end.

Not trying to invalidate the lack of emotional resonance you noted (though I think this is common to every MCU origin), but
CM is linear storytelling.


I guess you're right, but what I meant was more that her backstory is told in flashbacks rather than simply starting from that point and moving forward. I worded it poorly. I think it would have been a better way to tell her story and give her an actual arc if we'd have spent more time with her as a girl, then as a young pilot, then as a pilot under Mar-Vel getting to see her mentoring her, then the explosion and Kree, etc. We could have still had the same kind of reveal, but it would have been as she regained her humanity back on Earth and realized the Kree were lying to her.

Honestly, other than being told she was heroic and that we should care about her, we never actually saw her do anything or overcome anything that made us learn it ourselves.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Just like Supergirl, all the people needing to help her are women

Did SLJ lose his dick somewhere along the way?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:44 pm to
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Nothing wrong with that, but they are worse than Captain Marvel.


In your opinion. I disagree. It's not math.

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That's an occurrence that doesn't save the movie from being on the lower end.


Agreed...I also think it's on the lower end. Just not AT the end.

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There's a lot more to dislike about any of the three movies I listed than Captain Marvel.


For you. For me, there was very little to redeem CM. Maybe it would have simply been boring and mediocre had we spent time with the character in another movie, but as an original story, for me...I left not really caring much about her at all.

And believe me...I wanted to like it. I did not WANT to get lumped in with the guys wanting to hate it. But as a guy that's seen all of these things, multiple times, and has generally thought all of them with the exception of IM3 were at least good if not great, this was the second movie to fall below that. And for me, it fell below them all.

The mileage of others may vary, of course.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Maybe I'm forgetting, but other than Batman, origin stories and genuinely powerful emotion don't really go hand in hand.


I'd suggest a re-watch of Cap's first movie. I always liked it, but after now having seen him in all of the subsequent films, they really did do a great job at setting him up with that first outing.

I think it gets shite on because Red Skull was not done really well, but Steve is done exceptionally well I think.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:48 pm to
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I disagree.


Good for you.

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For you.


For many, maybe for most. Have any opinion you like.

An opinion that says Thor 2 or Age of Ultron are better than Captain Marvel isn't something I'll take seriously. Sorry bout it.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12766 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:51 pm to
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OG Hulk


If you mean the 2003 Hulk (which now I know I have serious PTSD from), that isn’t officially an MCU movie. 08 Hulk was shite too though, but not technically an origin.

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CA:FA


CM is on par with this movie, which is the problem. CAFA was pre-Avengers, back when Marvel hadn’t exactly refined itself.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:52 pm to
Age of Ultron is easily better than Captain Marvel. That’s not a debate. Thor 2 is regularly regarded as a bottom 3 MCU movie so you’re not exactly going out on a limb there.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Age of Ultron is easily better than Captain Marvel. That’s not a debate.

I disagree.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
50643 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Age of Ultron is easily better than Captain Marvel. That’s not a debate.


And yet, it's being debated.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31980 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Age of Ultron is easily better than Captain Marvel. That’s not a debate.

AoU was a bad movie redeemed only by some comedy. Captain Marvel is a very meh movie without that same level of comedy. Saying one is definitively better than the other is dubious at best.

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Thor 2 is regularly regarded as a bottom 3 MCU movie so you’re not exactly going out on a limb there.

considering the OP said CM was the worst movie of all time, I'd say we aren't the ones moving the goalposts here.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:02 pm to
I would put CM at the same tier as AoU.

I enjoyed both for the most part but have no real desire to watch either of them again despite owning AoU.

I’ll almost certainly buy CM too solely because I own all of the other movies as well.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Age of Ultron is easily better than Captain Marvel.
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TheeRealCarolina


Yawn.
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