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re: GoT S7 E3 Thread: 'The Queen's Justice' Maester Thread
Posted on 8/1/17 at 12:58 am to McCaigBro69
Posted on 8/1/17 at 12:58 am to McCaigBro69
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guess there's a somewhat creative way they could do it that I can't think of myself
Instead of red/orange fire.... Have blue fire?
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:14 am to beerJeep
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Instead of red/orange fire.... Have blue fire?
I have no idea, I can't get the picture of this out of my head thinking of a dragon wight.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:10 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Do you think to say that all of the dothraki horses were on the ships when they were burned? Puts a huge damper on the effectiveness of the dothraki hoard to lose their horses
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:37 am to King of the North
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Its 100% the White Walkers army, Jon and his group of merry man are traveling north of the wall to provide evidence or some shite for the rest of the Lords and Ladies of Westeros
I didn't say it wasn't White Walkers.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:39 am to Rollwave034
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Do you think to say that all of the dothraki horses were on the ships when they were burned? Puts a huge damper on the effectiveness of the dothraki hoard to lose their horses
There weren't any Dothraki on Dany's ships that were burned. They're marooned on Dragonstone.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:11 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I don't get the people complaining that Dany should have won already just because she has a vastly superior force. That's like saying the US should have won the War on Terror 15 years ago. Technically they could have but for PR reasons they have to win while minimizing harm to innocents. Dany has the exact same problem and she's said as much. She wants to rule but she doesn't want people thinking she's her father. Ruling requires more than just conquering and she wants the people to love her, not fear her.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 6:14 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:16 am to TigerinATL
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Ruling requires more than just conquering and she wants the people to love her, not fear her.
Didn't Olenna literally say that for her to be a successful ruler the people would have to fear her? Or something like that?
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:32 am to TigerinATL
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That's like saying the US should have won the War on Terror 15 years ago. Technically they could have but for PR reasons they have to win while minimizing harm to innocents.
We haven't won the war on "Terror". That was a bullshite propaganda thing any way.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:33 am to McCaigBro69
I'm not sure Olenna is the best person to take advice on how to win from.
Speaking of which - I didn't mind them skipping the battle scene at Highgarden. But doing so made it seem like the Tyrell forces presented almost no resistance even given the advantages of numbers, resources and a fortified position. I don't think I even saw any siege equipment in the shot of Jamie's army.
Then again, I think the reach is supposed to be an rough analogue to France. I guess they went with early WWII France and not Say Napoleonic or even medieval France.
Speaking of which - I didn't mind them skipping the battle scene at Highgarden. But doing so made it seem like the Tyrell forces presented almost no resistance even given the advantages of numbers, resources and a fortified position. I don't think I even saw any siege equipment in the shot of Jamie's army.
Then again, I think the reach is supposed to be an rough analogue to France. I guess they went with early WWII France and not Say Napoleonic or even medieval France.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 6:35 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:00 am to Methuselah
They didn't have the budget for it. They only have the budget for one or two major battles a season because of the CGI cost.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:01 am to WhiskeyPapa
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We haven't won the war on "Terror". That was a bullshite propaganda thing any way.
He said that we could have. Not that we did.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:06 am to Methuselah
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Speaking of which - I didn't mind them skipping the battle scene at Highgarden. But doing so made it seem like the Tyrell forces presented almost no resistance even given the advantages of numbers, resources and a fortified position.
Exactly. Highgarden was still a castle, right? So how'd they take it so fast? I didn't see any siege towers or anything like that. The way they skipped the battle it's like someone on the inside just opened the gates for the Lannister army to come in and sack the place.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:08 am to TigerinSoCal
I got drunk last night and watched a spoiler video on youtube that had some script leaks.
I really regret it.
I really regret it.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:13 am to TigerinSoCal
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Exactly. Highgarden was still a castle, right? So how'd they take it so fast? I didn't see any siege towers or anything like that. The way they skipped the battle it's like someone on the inside just opened the gates for the Lannister army to come in and sack the place.
There was no room in the budget for multiple big battles like that. Also, the Tyrells have never had a big or fearsome army. And most of their bannermen went with the Tarly's on the Lannister's side.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:27 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Exactly, she needs to do what the US did in WWII when they were doing night raids with the Air Force in Germany. Obviously, she isn't gonna obliterate whole cities like we did, but if she could find out where Euron's fleet is or Jaime's army is, she could deal lethal blows to Cersei. And the war in the South would effectively be over.
They just so happen the have the one kid who is tapped into everything going on right now via the weirwood.net. I think having Bran be able to have greensight is going to help them immensely. He can warg into birds and animals and see troop movements, he is basically a spy satellite in this world.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:32 am to Perrydawg
Bran doesn't give two fricks about the War in the South, he probably cares more about the NK than Jon does.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:36 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I understand that but if Jon aligns with Dany like they are telegraphing, he might have to use that ability to end shite in the south to fight the real threat in the north.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:44 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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There was no room in the budget for multiple big battles like that. Also, the Tyrells have never had a big or fearsome army. And most of their bannermen went with the Tarly's on the Lannister's side
I understand that. That's why I said them skipping the battle didn't bother me. It just seemed weird that they didn't even throw us a line or two of exposition on how they won it or how many losses they had doing it. (Other than Jamie's half flippant that the Tyrell forces fought "as well as could be expected). I'd think that if the Tyrell's just kept a decent portion of their forces inside the castle, that they could have lasted a long time and inflicted a lot of losses on the Lannisters.
I think Danny's major problem thus far has been that her allies have kind of sucked at actual warfare. Yara was really bad at naval reconnaissance and Olenna was really bad at defending a castle even given ample supplies and protection. Heck, even whoever was in charge of the fleet that Grey Worm used sucked at keeping a lookout and not getting trapped in a pitched battle with Euron. (though admittedly, Casterly Rock was a failure on the strategic side as well).
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:52 am to Methuselah
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I understand that. That's why I said them skipping the battle didn't bother me. It just seemed weird that they didn't even throw us a line or two of exposition on how they won it or how many losses they had doing it.
well it worked b/c of the arrogance of tyrion and their strategy of taking CR, which was almost double ironic b/c he had the first strategy (which we got to see) and juxtaposed it with his actual strategy. then after that was shown, again, they juxtapose "reality" (Euron burning the ships, Jaimie marching on HG)
using written words it's not effective but on the screen? it was really good
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I'd think that if the Tyrell's just kept a decent portion of their forces inside the castle, that they could have lasted a long time and inflicted a lot of losses on the Lannisters.
this statement is true IF Randall Tarley is organizing and leading their defense. House Tarley was their military
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
I wonder if Tyrion's feelings influenced his advice to take the Rock.
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