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Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:20 pm to
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Who was it that the monster tried to take into the ground? It didn't kill this person, it tried to take them down in the ground but they got away somehow. I can't remember


Locke
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:31 pm to
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Didn't the pilot say he could make contact with help by using the plane's radio? If I remember correctly, I think he got a signal right before Smokey snatched him away.

The pilot could have ruined Smokey/MIB's plan from the get-go.

This is still a theory in progress.


Just rewatched that clip: The survivors were at the cockpit to get the transceiver, and the Monster would probably know this. Once there the Pilot points out where the transceiver is and he can't get a signal. The Monster then grabs the Pilot. The transceiver is the same one they used to pick up the Rousseau's signal. The Monster knew that having the transceiver would do nothing, and it just allowed him to make the survivors fearful of him.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:39 pm to
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The Monster knew that having the transceiver would do nothing, and it just allowed him to make the survivors fearful of him.


But the Monster killing someone simply at the will of the MIB, doesn't fit with the Monster being a "judge".
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:41 pm to
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But the Monster killing someone simply at the will of the MIB, doesn't fit with the Monster being a "judge".



You've watched LA X right? The Monster and MIB are one in the same. I'm saying that the Pilot was dead when the plane crashed, and the monster manifested itself into the Pilot. He didn't kill the Pilot in an other words.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:49 pm to
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You've watched LA X right? The Monster and MIB are one in the same. I'm saying that the Pilot was dead when the plane crashed, and the monster manifested itself into the Pilot. He didn't kill the Pilot in an other words.


No offense... but that's pretty weak.

Edit: and The MIB/Monster relationship is complex I think. I posted a bunch of questions on that earlier. The cabin, the ash ring, Christian on and off the island, etc. I don't know. And MIB contends that he is a man, not a monster.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 5:51 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60695 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 5:59 pm to
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I'd like to hear you guys' thoughts on the MIB saying to the crowd outside the statue "I'm very disappointed in you" when he knocked Richard out and began to walk off....I thought that was an odd statement.


He was their slave for years. Recall that they could "summon" the smoke monster to be their judge and jury as long as he was trapped in the mythical cabin. The real question remains: Where was Jacob. It seems he may have inhabited the body of Christian for a while (the white shoed version) to help the Losties.

The black shoed version of Christian was smokie and we see him in several places. In fact, it was the dark Christian who told Locke to move the island. After this, we see smokie is freed. Perhaps the island jumped to a time where someone loyal to him broke the ash, i.e. himself.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 6:04 pm to
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(the white shoed version)

The black shoed version


frick. I didn't notice there were different shoes... is this for real??
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60695 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 6:09 pm to
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I didn't notice there were different shoes... is this for real??


Yes, the color of Christian's shoes are a BIG deal.

My Tennis Shoes Theory
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 6:56 pm to
So what are the rules of killing black?

why don't they just walk up to him and sprinkle ash around him....if he can't cross ash.

post not to anyone, just questions I'm throwing out.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:00 pm to
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why don't they just walk up to him and sprinkle ash around him....if he can't cross ash.

I don't know what all the rules are, but after last night, two things are apparent...

1. Ash appears to be nothing more than a slight inconvenience to the Monster if its not used properly

2. If you try to "kill" MIB, he gets really gets annoyed and kills everyone involved.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32255 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:20 pm to
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Once there the Pilot points out where the transceiver is and he can't get a signal.


I must have been thinking of the signal that Boone got when he was in Yemi's plane. He did get a response, didn't he?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 7:36 pm to
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I must have been thinking of the signal that Boone got when he was in Yemi's plane. He did get a response, didn't he?



Yeah he did, but it was Bernard on the other line. He had a radio and very coincidentally turned it on at the exact time Boone did.
Posted by norman handshake
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
104 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:20 pm to
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Posted by norman handshake
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
104 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:22 pm to
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Something tells me the Monster can't harm any person it perceives as morally righteous



then explain to me why he killed Eko? did the "monster" not see Eko as morally righteous because of all the killing? even though he esentially repented and was a follower of God/the island?
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:26 pm to
just finished the re-watch -love the line in the airport when Locke thanks Jack, but "there's nothing anybody can do...."

".......nothing's irreversible" - Jack
Posted by Beastwood
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
1302 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:28 pm to
Not that I buy this either way yet, but Eko basically said he wasn't sorry for all that he had done because he did his best with what life had given him. Goes kind of with the Catholic notion that a priest can't give absolution unless the person is repentant.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 8:28 pm
Posted by norman handshake
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
104 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:32 pm to
"you always have a choice"
Posted by Emilio7
Member since Aug 2008
9269 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:49 pm to
The conversation between Locke & Shephard in the airport was pretty deep.


"Nothing is irreversible."


didn't see that Stu posted something about this...my bad
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 8:50 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 8:51 pm to
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then explain to me why he killed Eko? did the "monster" not see Eko as morally righteous because of all the killing? even though he esentially repented and was a follower of God/the island?



I explained it earlier. He felt no remorse for the sins he committed and did not repent for them. If he had repented, I think the Monster would have spared Eko.
Posted by Emilio7
Member since Aug 2008
9269 posts
Posted on 2/3/10 at 9:01 pm to
Thought this was interesting on Lostpedia forum.

LINK

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