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re: So the Matrix guy really did get a sex change?

Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:07 pm to
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I don't envy the brain of a person who wants sexual reassignment or a sex change - they must have some very unsettled feelings about their gender and their view of themselves.


fundamentally how is this any different than those that want to lose a limb?
(other than no legit Drs will do the surgery)



How is it the same?

Are there significant numbers of people who want their arms or legs lopped off? I can't relate to either random proposition really but assume the psychological/physiological motivations are different

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:22 pm to
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How is it the same?
both day they are unhappy with their body,,
not in the way fat people are,,but they feel like a part is missing or theres a part there that should not be



and yes its rare,, but 50 years ago so was sex reassignment surgery
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:25 pm to
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they are unhappy with their body,,



by that logic you lump together people who have liposuction with people have sexual reassignment don't you?

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:34 pm to
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by that logic you lump together people who have liposuction with people have sexual reassignment don't you?
psychologically whats the diff?

unless the liposuction was suggested for medical reasons
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:52 pm to
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psychologically whats the diff?


You don't think there's a difference?

I would assume the difference between wishing your body was a little more attractive (by our social standards) and wishing you were a different sex is a pretty large one... almost everyone wishes their body were a little different... very few people wish they were a different gender IMO

FWIW, I'm not sure either side of the argument is necessarily wrong. If you believe things like gender reassignment are ethically equivalent to liposuction I guess my bias is to disagree but maybe more people in the future will agree with you (essentially that it is no big deal?)
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 7:55 pm to
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I would assume the difference between wishing your body was a little more attractive (by our social standards) and wishing you were a different sex is a pretty large one... almost everyone wishes their body were a little different
but few of the number resort to surgery, and I was comparing people that want to shop off a limb,, bit fatties that are too lazy to go to the gym
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 8:02 pm to
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fundamentally how is this any different than those that want to lose a limb?

I wonder how many people felt this way years ago when the surgery wasn't possible. Were there guys who said "Gee, I wish a doctor could split my dick in half, tear off my balls and fashion a makeshift vagina. That'd be super," or did some quack one day announce that this was possible and battered tranny's flocked to him?

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obviously there is something not right
but it is nature or nurture?

I think society as a whole is far more indulgent, and once the first few had it done, others were more willing to do it. Getting your arse kicked because the guy you brought home discovers you have a wang is very off-putting, I suppose.

Either way, I suspect hard drugs were involved in the process.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 9/7/12 at 8:10 pm to
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but few of the number resort to surgery



I'm not sure if I agree with that. Cosmetic procedures are becoming more and more common in just the last 10-15 years (these numbers also don't seem to include Americans who travel out of the country for these procedures for reasons of cost or privacy).

cosmetic procedures: women vs men

procedures by type

overall data

Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 9/8/12 at 1:35 am to
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