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re: The Walking Dead
Posted on 11/8/10 at 9:24 pm to Superior Pariah
Posted on 11/8/10 at 9:24 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:
Superior Pariah
Have you seen Diary of the Dead? I really enjoyed that one mainly because Romero got back to his zombie roots.
He then proceeded to take a steaming dump on them when Survival of the Dead came out
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Posted on 11/8/10 at 9:25 pm to HooDooWitch
quote:
HooDooWitch
No problem
I'm actually watching it again for the 2nd time and surfing the net. I'm just happy people are talking zombies
Posted on 11/8/10 at 9:33 pm to LSUZombie
I saw Diary but thought it was average...not bad at all though. But the commentary was way too unsubtle and seemed gimmicky but I'm generally not a fan of Cloverfield-type storylines so I'm a bit biased. Never saw Survival. I was also kind of disappointed that he went back to the beginning of the invasion in Diary but I guess it was necessary for the story. Personally, I'd like to see a zombie movie set like 100-200 years after the initial attack. Could be a cool concept with the right ideas
This post was edited on 11/8/10 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 11/9/10 at 1:04 am to Bard
quote:
The Walking Dead
I was annoyed that the deputy didn't drop that handy grenade into the throng trying to figure out how to climb the ladde
This would have been very cool.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:26 am to Lester Earl
quote:
my direct TV doesnt have it. 254 is what i watched it on. is there another AMC HD channel i dont know about?
direct tv doesn't carry it in HD for some ridiculous reason.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 2:33 am to OBUDan
I'm not a zombie movie pro by any means, and I know zombies are typically portrayed as slow moving, lifeless beings who just get by on scent/sound... but why?
I ask only because there's been numerous complaints about the zombies doing things (climbing a fence, breaking a glass door with a brick, etc.). I didn't think either was that big of a stretch... but why does a zombie have to be a slow moving idiot? Just because that's always the way they have been?
As long as they don't start talking or handling weapons, I'm fine with them climbing shite, breaking shite, etc.
I ask only because there's been numerous complaints about the zombies doing things (climbing a fence, breaking a glass door with a brick, etc.). I didn't think either was that big of a stretch... but why does a zombie have to be a slow moving idiot? Just because that's always the way they have been?
As long as they don't start talking or handling weapons, I'm fine with them climbing shite, breaking shite, etc.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 7:01 am to LSUZombie
quote:
uh...no. it wasn't slow at all
It was. I noticed myself looking at the time of the show, and thinking that it was already like 40+ minutes into it and nothing really had happened yet. I like the slow pace, but I felt like this one moved a little too slow. However, I liked how it ended, with them getting out of the mall and headed back out of town. I'm guessing that Sheriff will find his wife and kid next episode, since it seems like the department store people are headed to where Deputy and Sheriff's wife/kid are. That should make for some good TV.
And yeah, no idea why they wouldn't have barricaded the store doors somehow, especially seeing as how the one zombie had a rock in his hand.
As far as that goes, I'm torn on seeing zombies use tools and climb fences. Actually, it's more the tools than the fence. With the fence, we assume zombies have a one-track mind...feeding. So whatever obstacles they come to, they'll try to get past. I do, however, wish the zombie would have gotten over the fence more slowly and zombie-like, instead of just seeming to hop over it like a fricking athlete. With the tools, I am anti that shite. I don't remember which Romero movie it was (Land of the Dead maybe??) where the zombies kept getting smarter (especially the one "main" zombie, black postal worker I think) and eventually learned how to use weapons. It was one of my least favorite things about it. I don't have a problem with zombies being able to use primitive, basic instinct, but let's keep them from evolving.
ETA: I see ya'll bitched about the exact same thing not long after the post I replied to.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 7:04 am
Posted on 11/9/10 at 7:06 am to CocomoLSU
Side note questions for LSUZombie...
Do you watch Community, and did you see the Halloween episode two weeks ago?
Do you watch Community, and did you see the Halloween episode two weeks ago?
Posted on 11/9/10 at 7:23 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
Do you watch Community, and did you see the Halloween episode two weeks ago?
I love community. I have watched it since episode 1. It's my favorite show right now (tied with TWD)
The Halloween epsiode was greatness. Ahbed and Troy were hilarious when they screamed "zombie attack!"
Posted on 11/9/10 at 7:28 am to OBUDan
quote:
I ask only because there's been numerous complaints about the zombies doing things (climbing a fence, breaking a glass door with a brick, etc.). I didn't think either was that big of a stretch... but why does a zombie have to be a slow moving idiot? Just because that's always the way they have been?
The way I always saw it is that zombies are dead. The only body function they have is their very primitive brain driving them. With the body dead, I would think muscle and tissue would start to break down and rigormortis would step in, thus preventing them from running.
I really don't have a problem with them picking up a rock or something to smash a window (this goes against the entre rigormortis idea as well) but I don't like seeing them nimbly hopping a fence to get to their victim.
What I wish would have happened would be they zombie hoarde would have just knocked the fence over right away.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 7:31 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
As far as that goes, I'm torn on seeing zombies use tools and climb fences. Actually, it's more the tools than the fence. With the fence, we assume zombies have a one-track mind...feeding. So whatever obstacles they come to, they'll try to get past. I do, however, wish the zombie would have gotten over the fence more slowly and zombie-like, instead of just seeming to hop over it like a fricking athlete. With the tools, I am anti that shite. I don't remember which Romero movie it was (Land of the Dead maybe??) where the zombies kept getting smarter (especially the one "main" zombie, black postal worker I think) and eventually learned how to use weapons. It was one of my least favorite things about it. I don't have a problem with zombies being able to use primitive, basic instinct, but let's keep them from evolving.
It's like you are in my mind. I agree with all of this.
Best part of Land of the Dead was when the midget pimp got plugged by the deformed dude! Nice shot!
Posted on 11/9/10 at 8:19 am to LSUZombie
Rigor only affects the body for about 3-4 days, after that the body loosens back up.
Almost every Romero zombie movie has zombies with the ability to learn.
NoftLD - One uses the table leg as a club to smash in the window/door.
Dawn - After Roger gets destroyed in the elevator and turns he immediately goes after the fake wall because he remembered the survivors were behind it.
Day - See Bub using a handgun, pressing buttons, talking, and learning to not eat the doctor etc
Land - Pump station worker using an M16 , teaching other zombies, shows remorse for other zombies dying etc
So I don't see why some of you are upset that they have the ability to learn. It's been there since the beginning. Granted later on it got ridiculously stupid, it was still found and prevalent in the "main trilogy".
Almost every Romero zombie movie has zombies with the ability to learn.
NoftLD - One uses the table leg as a club to smash in the window/door.
Dawn - After Roger gets destroyed in the elevator and turns he immediately goes after the fake wall because he remembered the survivors were behind it.
Day - See Bub using a handgun, pressing buttons, talking, and learning to not eat the doctor etc
Land - Pump station worker using an M16 , teaching other zombies, shows remorse for other zombies dying etc
So I don't see why some of you are upset that they have the ability to learn. It's been there since the beginning. Granted later on it got ridiculously stupid, it was still found and prevalent in the "main trilogy".
Posted on 11/9/10 at 8:41 am to jmarto1
Just bought the season pass on iTunes. Can't wait to get home from work and get caught up.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 9:45 am to Scoop
I'm ok with the zombies using tools if it's done right. What I mean is if it's just instinctual, like the zombie just happens to be holding a rock and decides to beat it against something, then that's cool. If the zombies ever start looking around for things to smash in barricades, like they are thinking strategically, then that would probably annoy me.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 9:47 am to LSUZombie
quote:
The way I always saw it is that zombies are dead. The only body function they have is their very primitive brain driving them. With the body dead, I would think muscle and tissue would start to break down and rigormortis would step in, thus preventing them from running.
I really don't have a problem with them picking up a rock or something to smash a window (this goes against the entre rigormortis idea as well) but I don't like seeing them nimbly hopping a fence to get to their victim.
What I wish would have happened would be they zombie hoarde would have just knocked the fence over right away.
Actually, they're undead.
But I agree with most all of that. I also agree that their bodies would eventually decompose until they can't move anymore. Which is why I agree that the more "fresh" zombies would be physically capable of doing more.
The only difference is that I would assume that zombies who actively are feeding on warm flesh would, in a sense, be regenerating energy to a certain extent. So even though they're (un) dead and decomposing to a degree, feeding helps them slow that process a bit. It also helps them stay more active than, say, a zombie who has been turned for a while and is not feeding.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 9:52 am to TigerNutwhack
quote:
I'm ok with the zombies using tools if it's done right. What I mean is if it's just instinctual, like the zombie just happens to be holding a rock and decides to beat it against something, then that's cool. If the zombies ever start looking around for things to smash in barricades, like they are thinking strategically, then that would probably annoy me.
But the whole thing is that zombies are dead...braindead. At least for the most part. So their bodies are still working, but their brains are not really (which is why they don't speak, recognize loved ones, etc.); they've just switched off and primal behavior takes over. It's like once a person turns, the switch gets flipped and the only thing they are concerned about is feeding. That's why I said earlier that it's basic, primitive instinct that takes over. It's not figuring stuff out or learning about stuff. Even something like realizing that hitting a rock on glass works better than hitting your hand on glass...that takes some kind of brainpower to recognize, and zombies shouldn't have that.
At least that's my opinion.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 10:02 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
But the whole thing is that zombies are dead...braindead. At least for the most part. So their bodies are still working, but their brains are not really (which is why they don't speak, recognize loved ones, etc.); they've just switched off and primal behavior takes over. It's like once a person turns, the switch gets flipped and the only thing they are concerned about is feeding. That's why I said earlier that it's basic, primitive instinct that takes over. It's not figuring stuff out or learning about stuff. Even something like realizing that hitting a rock on glass works better than hitting your hand on glass...that takes some kind of brainpower to recognize, and zombies shouldn't have that.
At least that's my opinion.
Oh, I agree. That's kinda what I meant my instinctual, but maybe I'm thinking more accidental. Like the zombie picked up a rock for some reason, maybe there was blood on it and it smelled it, then forgets it has the rock in it's hand. Then the zombie sees people and tries to get at them, still having the rock in the it's hand, but only because it never dropped it. So it's only hitting the door with the rock because it happened to have a rock in it's hands, not because it thinks it is better to do it that way.
That may or may not be how they will do it, but that's how I'm going to think about it. In general though I would prefer my zombies to not use any kind of tool or object.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 12:25 pm to TigerNutwhack
I just watched the 2nd episode and it was as great as the first imo. The whole destroying the body to spread guts on them scene was pretty intense. The fact that they left the guy handcuffed on the roof was pretty freaking nuts. All around great episode. Hope this show keeps it up.
Posted on 11/9/10 at 1:16 pm to LSUZombie
quote:
Also Day of the Dead as well
What? No love for Bub???
Posted on 11/9/10 at 3:10 pm to LSU CRAZY
i absolutely love this show.
after watching the first two episodes, i started looking around the internet for zombie stuff.
i found these two links from cracked.com on a zombie apocalypse being successful or failing miserably.
after watching the first two episodes, i started looking around the internet for zombie stuff.
i found these two links from cracked.com on a zombie apocalypse being successful or failing miserably.
This post was edited on 11/9/10 at 3:12 pm
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