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re: The Walking Dead
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:36 am to MrDrumngun
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:36 am to MrDrumngun
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Considering there was a helicopter in the first episode
see, now we can't be a hundred percent sure there was a helicopter. Rick saw it, but the other survivors say it was an aberration. I do think it was legit, but then again, if those guys were on the roof tops while he was that close how could they not see it?
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:43 am to Michael J Cocks
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and that lake with the beautiful blue water. Don't recall that being just on the outskirts of the city either.
I think the lake is stone quarry. Surprising there was fish. Maybe it was stocked.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:51 am to Michael J Cocks
I did just watch all the episodes last night...
My only criticism was that they ripped off 28 Days Later with the opening scene of him waking up in a hospital room. The Genesis should have been completely different and unparalleled to any previous work.
My only criticism was that they ripped off 28 Days Later with the opening scene of him waking up in a hospital room. The Genesis should have been completely different and unparalleled to any previous work.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:53 am to Cajun Revolution
Didn't he get his hands on a bunch of grenades while he was in the tank? Can't recall whether he used them.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:55 am to Cajun Revolution
quote:This show is based off of a comic series called the Walking Dead. That was how the series started. The writer of the series may have ripped it off 28 Days Later, but the writers of the show are staying true to the series.
I did just watch all the episodes last night...
My only criticism was that they ripped off 28 Days Later with the opening scene of him waking up in a hospital room. The Genesis should have been completely different and unparalleled to any previous work.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:55 am to mt1
He hasn't used them. I was expecting him to drop one off in the crowd when they initially chased them up the guard rails....he'll probably use it like the final episode of the series knowing the build up. You see something, it goes away, then it comes back.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:56 am to mt1
quote:I know he grabbed one. The last two episodes, I keep thinking about that grenade and hoping he uses it.
Didn't he get his hands on a bunch of grenades while he was in the tank? Can't recall whether he used them.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:56 am to mt1
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Didn't he get his hands on a bunch of grenades while he was in the tank? Can't recall whether he used them.
he did grab one or 2 and he has yet to use them.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 10:58 am to Cajun Revolution
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My only criticism was that they ripped off 28 Days Later with the opening scene of him waking up in a hospital room. The Genesis should have been completely different and unparalleled to any previous work.
I don't think that is fair. You have to start somewhere and they do have all of the story leading up to him being in the hospital. All zombie films to a certain degree have some similarity. Many of them draw heavily from George Romero.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:03 am to LSUnowhas2
quote:Like I said, the writer of the comic series (which began in 2003) may have stolen the idea from 28 Days Later (2002), but the television show is based off of the comic series. I see no reason to change the beginning when that is how it was initially written.
I don't think that is fair. You have to start somewhere and they do have all of the story leading up to him being in the hospital. All zombie films to a certain degree have some similarity. Many of them draw heavily from George Romero.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:19 am to Tigreat
I'm not sure if it was ripped off but I had an eerily similar feel to it. It doesn't really matter because it's not like any of it was actually plagiarized.
I hated the 28 Days Later Zombies...nothing worse than zombies that mother fricking sprint.
I hated the 28 Days Later Zombies...nothing worse than zombies that mother fricking sprint.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:26 am to Cajun Revolution
quote:Yea it was very similar to 28 Days Later. I can give you that.
I'm not sure if it was ripped off but I had an eerily similar feel to it. It doesn't really matter because it's not like any of it was actually plagiarized.
quote:I loved that movie. Also, technically they aren't zombies in 28 Days Later though. To me zombies are reanimated corpses. Those were just infected, really, really pissed people.
I hated the 28 Days Later Zombies...nothing worse than zombies that mother fricking sprint.
And with the reanimated corpse concept, the decomposing flesh was always the reason I had for their slow speed. They weren't decomposing in 28 Days Later, so no reason for them to move slowly.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:30 am to Cajun Revolution
I'm just starting episode 4 right now after watching the first 3 straight, and I must say this series has really grown on me. It was just meh at the beginning, but now I'm really starting to enjoy it.
The beginning WAS WAYYY too similar to 28 Days Later, but its a good beginning. Waking up in a hospital room with no one around and not knowing what happened is probably one of the scariest/weirdest situations I could imagine going through. I wish the main character wasn't so caring though. He feels he "owes" people shite that they wouldn't do for him in a million years.
However, what has really surprised me and intrigued me is the whole kind of "Brothers/Pearl Harbor" storyline... The best friend screwing the husbands wife while they think he's dead and then BAM he's back. That was a pleasant surprise. I haven't read the comic or whatever this was based on, but I detect an undercurrent of dark humor in these episodes that I really enjoy as well.
The beginning WAS WAYYY too similar to 28 Days Later, but its a good beginning. Waking up in a hospital room with no one around and not knowing what happened is probably one of the scariest/weirdest situations I could imagine going through. I wish the main character wasn't so caring though. He feels he "owes" people shite that they wouldn't do for him in a million years.
However, what has really surprised me and intrigued me is the whole kind of "Brothers/Pearl Harbor" storyline... The best friend screwing the husbands wife while they think he's dead and then BAM he's back. That was a pleasant surprise. I haven't read the comic or whatever this was based on, but I detect an undercurrent of dark humor in these episodes that I really enjoy as well.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:45 am to Tigreat
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I loved that movie. Also, technically they aren't zombies in 28 Days Later though. To me zombies are reanimated corpses. Those were just infected, really, really pissed people.
And with the reanimated corpse concept, the decomposing flesh was always the reason I had for their slow speed. They weren't decomposing in 28 Days Later, so no reason for them to move slowly.
See, I feel I could last a few months with the Zombie concept in The Walking Dead...they're pretty much brainless corpses who drag themselves along. I'm pretty sure I'd be dead the first two weeks in 28 Days Later...the crazy sprinting zombies would get me. Then how they pop up and are agile was just amazing. I'd ve dead...would need more Cardio.
Still, the Walking Dead doesn't seem so bad in the Zombie Universe considering their lack of agility and brains. A solid perimeter/fortress would be good though I did see some ingenuity with the Zombie using a Rock to break the glass. Wasn't expecting that which kind of indicted brain function.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:50 am to GeauxDT
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The beginning WAS WAYYY too similar to 28 Days Later, but its a good beginning. Waking up in a hospital room with no one around and not knowing what happened is probably one of the scariest/weirdest situations I could imagine going through. I wish the main character wasn't so caring though. He feels he "owes" people shite that they wouldn't do for him in a million years.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed. I was disappointed for a hot minute when I saw him in the bed with a full beard. I do think they made up for it though afterwards when they showed all the preventative measures people who sacked the hospital took (bolting everything, chains, laying out dead, etc.) That was more believeable than 28 days when he walks around for 30 blocks reading newspaper clippings...but of course we're comparing dead to infected. I always thought of Zombies at night though for some reason, not really day walkers. That was a pleasant surprise.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:55 am to Cajun Revolution
All I will say is that the zombie attack at the end was one of the best scenes I have ever watched. And that includes all zombie movies I have viewed over the years.
It was gory, scary, and just awesome.
It was gory, scary, and just awesome.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 12:05 pm to LSUZombie
Well, I understand that but I think there might be something to this using a rock to bust the entrance way...I just hope they are able to go I Am Legend and start springing traps (I know, I know infected not Zombies. It would make it vastly more interesting by next season to show they have some sort of brain function.
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 12:18 pm to Cajun Revolution
I wish the zombies were just a little more realistic. Yeah, they're better (more realistic) than the 28 Days Later version who all are olympic sprinter fast, but come on, a 'brain defect' wouldn't keep a torso alive to crawl as far as that one did and as long as it did. It just seems like the producers/directors wanted to go with more realistic concepts of zombies, such as having to aim for the head to kill them, more realistic movements, and their sensory perception, but some things were just ridiculous. That's not a big complaint though.
I've been wondering, why with all the zombie movies coming out in the past few years, has it taken someone this long to create a decent TV series of the concept...
I've been wondering, why with all the zombie movies coming out in the past few years, has it taken someone this long to create a decent TV series of the concept...
Posted on 11/22/10 at 1:08 pm to GeauxDT
Just wanted to weigh in)...
First, I don’t really care about the beginning. The “he was in a coma” thing is just a convenient literary device to avoid showing the story of how everyone became infected. Instead, we can plop down in the middle of this world, totally disoriented like our hero. Frankly, it saves time (nothing worse than an hour of exposition to get to the good stuff) and also puts the reader/viewer on equal footing as the primary character.
As for the torso zombie, I think it does work. Zombies are not just diseased like in 28 Days Later, they are paranormal. They don’t circulate or respirate. So who cares if there’s just a half zombie? What? She’s going to die from blood loss? The only way to kill a zombie, as stated in this world (and most zombie worlds) is to destroy the brain. Which is why the decapitated head can still bite you. That’s entirely consistent with the rules of this and most zombie universes.
I do agree they chose a terrible place to camp. First off, tents? Mrs. Baloo went on a long rant in the very first episode about that one. Also, the perimeter is extremely difficult to defend and they are surrounded by trees, giving the zombies cover. You don’t know you’re being attacked until they are right on top of you. I’d let some of that stupidity slide, but Shane, experienced in law enforcement, should have a basic grasp of these concepts. I’m not asking for a heavily fortified position, but they picked one of the worst spots possible.
First, I don’t really care about the beginning. The “he was in a coma” thing is just a convenient literary device to avoid showing the story of how everyone became infected. Instead, we can plop down in the middle of this world, totally disoriented like our hero. Frankly, it saves time (nothing worse than an hour of exposition to get to the good stuff) and also puts the reader/viewer on equal footing as the primary character.
As for the torso zombie, I think it does work. Zombies are not just diseased like in 28 Days Later, they are paranormal. They don’t circulate or respirate. So who cares if there’s just a half zombie? What? She’s going to die from blood loss? The only way to kill a zombie, as stated in this world (and most zombie worlds) is to destroy the brain. Which is why the decapitated head can still bite you. That’s entirely consistent with the rules of this and most zombie universes.
I do agree they chose a terrible place to camp. First off, tents? Mrs. Baloo went on a long rant in the very first episode about that one. Also, the perimeter is extremely difficult to defend and they are surrounded by trees, giving the zombies cover. You don’t know you’re being attacked until they are right on top of you. I’d let some of that stupidity slide, but Shane, experienced in law enforcement, should have a basic grasp of these concepts. I’m not asking for a heavily fortified position, but they picked one of the worst spots possible.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 1:21 pm to Baloo
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I do agree they chose a terrible place to camp. First off, tents? Mrs. Baloo went on a long rant in the very first episode about that one. Also, the perimeter is extremely difficult to defend and they are surrounded by trees, giving the zombies cover. You don’t know you’re being attacked until they are right on top of you. I’d let some of that stupidity slide, but Shane, experienced in law enforcement, should have a basic grasp of these concepts. I’m not asking for a heavily fortified position, but they picked one of the worst spots possible.
I hate their camp spot too but I'll give you a couple points why it works that could help with logic:
1. Frickin mountain. Typically hard to access and there is only one way in, one way out which could be helpful with scavengers.
2. Water. Seems like a pretty good spot for crystal clear water, also bathes, etc. Nobody has to fight for it.
3. Food accessibility. Woods provide some promise of meat but also access to the pond to fish (which I strange because it doesn't look natural, more like a filled in rock pit).
4. Woods provide cover. Who ever heard of zombies coming out the woods? I always think large urban or suburban areas but it seems like they've gone hungry so they're branching out to the woods...guess could have anticipated this if you were an experienced zombie survivalist but I wouldn't have expected that group to, which by the way looks like a hodge podge of mental cases.
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