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re: Who Presently Will Music History Look Upon Favorably?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:38 pm to Spaulding Smails
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:38 pm to Spaulding Smails
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Mayer
Even though some of his stuff is vagtastic & I have a little trouble buying white, suburban blues-I agree with this. He's fersure talented, and maybe aging could be a sort of musical crockpot for him. I could definately see him performing in 30 years if he stays off the herron.
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:44 pm to Buddy Garrity
yeah, if you go look at the charts from 1955 to now, you will find not much has changed
everyone wants to think that zeppelin was really popular, but they were on a charting level.
everyone wants to think that zeppelin was really popular, but they were on a charting level.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:50 pm to DeathValley85
I can listen to rock n roll, rock, pop, jazz, classical, etc. ,but I cannot get into the loud crap that is being pawned off as country today. I also do not like RAP; it's basically people just talking in drum rhythms=no melody.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:55 pm to TheDoc
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everyone wants to think that zeppelin was really popular, but they were on a charting level
The basic concept may be true, but bad example. Zeppelin had several #1 albums. They were huge.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:58 pm to Buddy Garrity
quote:Incorrect
sfp posted this podcast a while ago and it addressed something most people don't realize. gimmie shelter and fortunate son were released in 1969 but weren't popular at all.
"Fortunate Son" was released as a double sided single with "Down On The Corner". It made #14 on the singles chart on its own and #3 paired with "Corner".
"Gimme Shelter" was the lead off track on Let It Bleed, a #3 album. It got lots of attention, and even more as the title track from the 1970 film.
quote:"Sugar Sugar" is a very good song, as Wilson Pickett understood
the number one song that year
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sugar sugar
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:04 pm to TheDoc
quote:I have no clue what point you are trying to make
yeah, if you go look at the charts from 1955 to now, you will find not much has changed
everyone wants to think that zeppelin was really popular, but they were on a charting level.
LZ -- who as I've pointed out, I do not care for -- were the biggest rock band of the '70s. They sold more albums during that period than the Beatles had during the '60s, thanks in large part to market expansion the Beatles themselves had done so much to help create.
You can question a lot of things about Zep -- aside from artistic value, their ethics come to mind -- but not their popularity.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:09 pm to Kafka
Well those clowns lied then
quote:no
"Sugar Sugar" is a very good song, as Wilson Pickett understood
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:12 pm to Kafka
Was LZ as popular/big as say, Drake or Miley Cyrus are now? Or were they more like a glorified DMB or Mayer?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:21 pm to Buddy Garrity
They were the most popular rock band in the world.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:21 pm to Buddy Garrity
quote:They were huge in sales
Was LZ as popular/big as say, Drake or Miley Cyrus are now? Or were they more like a glorified DMB or Mayer?
The thing about LZ is they sold mega albums -- but they had virtually no cultural impact otherwise. No movies like The Beatles or Elvis, and they seldom gave interviews. That's why I always argue when people post that Zep was more popular than the Beatles. They sold more albums, but the Beatles were a bigger cultural presence.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:22 pm to Buddy Garrity
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Dave Matthews Band
I think of DMB like Bluegrass music.
You may not like it, but it is pretty good music. And they are good musicians.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:24 pm to DeathValley85
Dave Grohl.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:I heard a version of "All Along The Watchtower" by either DM or John Mayer (I can't remember which). Whoever did it should get life in front of the firing squad for that crime alone.
Dave Matthews Band
I think of DMB like Bluegrass music.
You may not like it, but it is pretty good music. And they are good musicians.
I get sick of this "good musician" argument. The guys in the Lawrence Welk orchestra are good musicians -- do you want to listen to them?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:30 pm to bluemoons
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bluemoons
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Dave Grohl.
Can't believe it took that long to have his name put out there. He's at the top of the list concerning the OP.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:37 pm to Kafka
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You can question a lot of things about Zep -- aside from artistic value, their ethics come to mind -- but not their popularity.
I've heard this vaguely referred to before. Could give me a brief description of what exactly you are referring to or point me in the direction of what people take issue with, please?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:41 pm to Peazey
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:42 pm to Kafka
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The thing about LZ is they sold mega albums -- but they had virtually no cultural impact otherwise.
On the contrary, they did, and they still do. I'm sure arguing with you on that count is pointless, but to make such a statement is something just about anyone can refute. You may not like them, but a whole lot of other people did, and their influence still resonates today.
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and they seldom gave interviews.
They did give interviews in the early part of their career. But after some bad experiences, like with the way they got slagged by certain critics, and taking into account the huge numbers of records they still sold anyway, why did they need to do interviews?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:50 pm to Sayre
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Can't believe it took that long to have his name put out there. He's at the top of the list concerning the OP.
Agreed. I searched the thread for his name before posting because I couldn't believe nobody mentioned him. He's withstood the digital/electronic revolution and continues to make really good music. Sidenote: Sound City is worth a watch.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:53 pm to Peazey
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You can question a lot of things about Zep -- aside from artistic value, their ethics come to mind -- but not their popularity. I've heard this vaguely referred to before. Could give me a brief description of what exactly you are referring to or point me in the direction of what people take issue with, please?
fricking that groupie with a fish maybe. Although I think that's pretty awesome rock star behavior. I think they made groupies do other weird stuff too. Jimmy Page was into black magic and bought Aleistar Crowley's old house so maybe some uptight Christians would have a problem with that.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:11 pm to Brosef Stalin
As long as they weren't raping people I don't really care about their groupie activity or drug use. It ultimately doesn't really have any effect on their actual music even if they were anyway. The plagiarism thing is actually pretty bad as far as the music and artistic integrity is concerned and is something of which I was unaware. Some of those could have just sounded similar, but it did seem like some were straight lifted. I'll probably do a bit more research later on.
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