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re: Should the Saints trade Bush?
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:16 pm to TigerRanter
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:16 pm to TigerRanter
Mgt can hammer out the trade details but I agree this may be a good time to trade Bush while he still has some good years left.I do think he is a productive all around player but if the offense is productive without him than what is the point.I dont know any details of his contract but I'm sure he is being paid well.Couldnt we use some more help on Defense or somewhere else.I guess time will tell but it seems like a reasonable idea.Again, not hating on Bush just wondering whats in the best interest of the Saints org.
edited:I just saw some of the posts regarding his contract & the Saints cap room & agree based on that it may not be feasible to trade him now so Good Luck Reggie!
edited:I just saw some of the posts regarding his contract & the Saints cap room & agree based on that it may not be feasible to trade him now so Good Luck Reggie!
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:16 pm to CM84
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I goin to say with him we made it to a Conference Championship Game and without him we havent made the playoffs.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:20 pm to whodatfan
we also made the NFC Title game with Fred Thomas at CB and nothing without him.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:22 pm to whodatfan
Then again, I guess you could say without a healthy Deuce, we haven't been back to the playoffs. Either way, injuries, poor defense, and lack of a power run game (when neeeded for short yardage and to close out 4th quarters) is the reason we have not lived up to expectations the past two seasons. Stop trying to put all of our past woes on Reggie Bush. He will be a factor this year in some crucial situations. Be happy we are better, focused, and healthy.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:29 pm to NIH
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the saints would have been much better off trading down in 2006. i don't think i ever want to take a RB that high in the draft again.
Do you really think the Saints could have passed on Bush? Really?
The team was suffering from the aftermath of Katrina, Benson was was on his "Go West, Old Man, Go West" diatribe against the city's ability to recover, everything was in shambles. The entire area needed some hope and something to be excited about.
Name another player that could have brought the excitement that Bush has?
I don't think he's worth the money he's making, but I never underestimate the importance of drafting him.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:31 pm to adono
The Saints were already having record ticket sales before Bush, you add the 3-0 start and the Dome would have been sold out easily. Saints fans care about wins, not some over hyped RB.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:32 pm to whodatfan
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Stop trying to put all of our past woes on Reggie Bush
no one is putting all our woes on Bush. our argument is that he is not critical to our sucess(record and stats back this up) and he has not lived up to his huge price tag. not to mention when he is in the game payton struggles to balance the offense.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:44 pm to NIH
Not even reading these threads...
With the season upon us does this kinda off season gobbledygook chatter still have to go on?
It's not even a possibility- cap-wise, contract-wise, time of the season, and where he is at performance and health-wise.
Let it go. He's here for this year.
They'll be debate next February. It's all but certain that he will be renegotiated then. If a big year, favorably long term. If a disappointing year, lowered terms. After that occurs would be when the word trade could even enter the conversation.
With the season upon us does this kinda off season gobbledygook chatter still have to go on?
It's not even a possibility- cap-wise, contract-wise, time of the season, and where he is at performance and health-wise.
Let it go. He's here for this year.
They'll be debate next February. It's all but certain that he will be renegotiated then. If a big year, favorably long term. If a disappointing year, lowered terms. After that occurs would be when the word trade could even enter the conversation.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:51 pm to NIH
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The Saints were already having record ticket sales before Bush
Sorry NIH but Bush had a HUGE amount to do with the Saints selling out the season for the first ever time. He was easily the most hyped pick in franchise history and was getting about 3 times the national hype that Drew Brees was at the time.
Never before had a Saints player had countless of national commercials - and in some of them he was wearing Saints colors or representing New Orleans. It was completely unique to all of us and the hype and excitement it built was unreal. I remember my first Saints game since Katrina was in Week 2 at Lambeau Field and seeing Reggie in a Saints uniform for the first time in person was really something special for me - 28 years old at the time. I was like a little kid scanning the Yankee Stadium field for his first glimpse of Mickey Mantle.
Season tickets weren't sold out until early late August/early September of 2006. It had a lot to do with Reggie and all the national hype he was getting as the "savior of the Saints"
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 2:51 pm to blueslover
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It's not even a possibility- cap-wise, contract-wise, time of the season, and where he is at performance and health-wise.
End of discussion...
Disclaimer: Some on here won't let facts get in the way of another "Dump Reggie Now" thread.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:02 pm to AlejandroInHouston
I promise you, with the Saints 3-0 the Saints would have sold out anyway.
I don't know why that's even relavent now anyway. Right now Bush is severely under achieving for his price tag while the other backs on the roster are looking good.
I don't know why that's even relavent now anyway. Right now Bush is severely under achieving for his price tag while the other backs on the roster are looking good.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:09 pm to NIH
FWIW, the way things are now, EVERY player that gets drafted top 10 underachieves the price tag. No rookie, no matter how good a rookie season (matt ryan), deserves to get paid 60+ million dollars. They should all earn contracts over 3 years of play.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:11 pm to NIH
you just don't give up do you? you're the biggest Reggie Bush hater out there, probably in total agreement with the starter of this thread. listen to what I am sayin, the man is still trying to work his way back from a serious knee injury that is probably worse than they are leading people on to believe.
I do not blame him, take your time you have nothing to prove, he is not the one that needs to fight to make the team, and if anyone think he does that's ludicrous. Bush has provided enough big play abilty since his short stay, it's not his fault that opponents DLines was blowinup the Saints OLine last year and hitting him and Thomas in the backfield before they got going, as a result of that he got hurt. this year they seem to be blocking better, so I'll reserve my judgement, but really he has nothing to prove to you.
I do not blame him, take your time you have nothing to prove, he is not the one that needs to fight to make the team, and if anyone think he does that's ludicrous. Bush has provided enough big play abilty since his short stay, it's not his fault that opponents DLines was blowinup the Saints OLine last year and hitting him and Thomas in the backfield before they got going, as a result of that he got hurt. this year they seem to be blocking better, so I'll reserve my judgement, but really he has nothing to prove to you.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:16 pm to NIH
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I don't know why that's even relavent now anyway. Right now Bush is severely under achieving for his price tag while the other backs on the roster are looking good.
Let's agree with you that he's overpaid and underachieving; what you want to do about THIS season?
If your answer is: trade him.
Please explain how the team covers the $14 mill salary cap hit?
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:20 pm to tubucoco
how am i a hater? I deal in facts unlike yourself. Fact-We are 6-4 without Bush. Fact-Every running back that has donned a New Orleans Saints uniform since 2006 has had a higher YPC than Bush.(Stecker, Deuce, and PT). Fact-The offense has never missed a beat without him. Fact-Bush has never crossed the 4.00 YPC mark in a season. Fact-Bush gets stuffed more than any other NOS running back. Fact-Bush is paid a tremendous amount of money for questionable production. Fact-Bush has had trouble staying on the field.
My Opinion: He's not necesary anymore.
So much so that PT had one of the most impreesive showings for a back over the final eight games of last year. (Few RBs stay healthy for 16 games).
My Opinion: He's not necesary anymore.
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it's not his fault that opponents DLines was blowinup the Saints OLine last year and hitting him and Thomas in the backfield before they got going, as a result of that he got hurt
So much so that PT had one of the most impreesive showings for a back over the final eight games of last year. (Few RBs stay healthy for 16 games).
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:21 pm to adono
i'm not saying anything about this season, i'd like to see him gone after the year if he hasn't broken out yet.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:31 pm to NIH
quote:your opinion is worthless unless you are a assistant on the Saints staff, which I doubt you are. you claim you have the facts to back it up, when actuality you're facts are biased to show why you wanna get rid of Bush.
My Opinion: He's not necessary anymore.
fact is Bush makes them even more dangerous when he's in the game because opponents have to focus even harder to stop him from ripping one off, as a result it leaves other players open to do damage. we all know Bush will never be a downhill runner like folks want him to be, but pass to him out in the open or just get him out in the open and watch what he can do.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:34 pm to tubucoco
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your opinion is worthless unless you are a assistant on the Saints staff,
lol, so i guess none of us should post here unless we are saints assistants.
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which I doubt you are. you claim you have the facts to back it up, when actuality you're facts are biased to show why you wanna get rid of Bush.
prove me wrong, go ahead. show us how we miss bush with an actual argument, with you know, those pesky little things called facts. don't just say he brings a new dimension or he makes people worry about him. that's just the typical crap, come on. prove me wrong.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:41 pm to NIH
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show us how we miss bush with an actual argument, with you know, those pesky little things called facts.
he was leading the league in touchdowns before he pickup the injury thats a fact. and im guessing his ability to lead the league in that category probably led defensive coordinators to focus on him at the expense of another area of the field.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:42 pm to NIH
nah, I'm not getting into that all over again, but I know just because you take and put up a few lil stats doesn't mean that that is the whole story.
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