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Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:52 pm to NIH
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three of those were punt returns.
oh...im sorry, i didnt realize that a punt return for a TD counted for less than a regular TD. thats my bad. i though 6 points was 6 points. now that i know that not all touchdowns are the same you are clearly right
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:54 pm to mburne4
your point was that bush leading the league in TDs for 4-5 weeks makes defensive coordinators scared. i disagree considering half of those TDs were on special teams. do any defensive coordinators shite their pants at the thought of Hester on offense? great punt returner but that doesn't always translate.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 3:56 pm to NIH
I never said they would miss Bush, they are doing just fine right now, aren't they? I said he makes them even more dangerous when out there because defenses have to account for him, also. look I am trying to reach an agreement with you, I just don't see eye to eye with you that Bush ineffective, even with you sayin those TD's were punt returns, that still counts because it is offense and that is what he is capable of when in the open field.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 4:04 pm to tubucoco
I agree!
Posted on 8/30/09 at 4:14 pm to whodatfan
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FWIW, the way things are now, EVERY player that gets drafted top 10 underachieves the price tag. No rookie, no matter how good a rookie season (matt ryan), deserves to get paid 60+ million dollars. They should all earn contracts over 3 years of play.
This.
How many rookies that get paid this much on their first contract seriously deserve it? None. If Reggie was on his second contract, you would have every reason in the world to bitch about his performance not living up to his price tag. So what you are really upset at is the fact unproven rookies get this much money and not Bushs performance.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 4:26 pm to GeauxDT
that is why Goodell with everything he has done so far, really needs to concentrate on that more and come up with a pay cap for rookies in the NFL ala NBA.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 4:29 pm to GeauxDT
Yep. Reggies contract is used against him in arguments on a daily basis. Reggie hasn't performed up to expectations? Whos? Yours? Why do we keep hearing this? For everyone who has a negative argument against the dude, please stop using his contract, and the medias expectations for your arguments. If he has not performed up to YOUR expectations that is fine. The Saints thought he was worth it and drafted him #2. Hate on them for his contract, not him. If you don't like the way he plays, that's cool. But most people here who start the "reggie bush" threads have the same old tired arse reasons. Stop following a herd of hater cattle and state an original reason for once.
eta- Geaux, this wasn't directed at you, just a general worthless response.
eta- Geaux, this wasn't directed at you, just a general worthless response.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 4:47 pm to whodatfan
Ohh, I know what side you are on, and Im on that side too. I got blasted for posting that there should be a rookie payscale a few weeks back, and now people are bitching because rookies get paid too much. What gives?
Posted on 8/30/09 at 5:26 pm to tubucoco
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fact is Bush makes them even more dangerous when he's in the game because opponents have to focus even harder to stop him from ripping one off
once bush showed he wasn't really a threat to break a long play consistently, this went out the window
that happened about halfway through 2006
bush hasn't really produced big plays from the LOS
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Bush will never be a downhill runner like folks want him to be, but pass to him out in the open or just get him out in the open and watch what he can do.
not produce big plays?
Posted on 8/30/09 at 5:27 pm to mburne4
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im sorry, i didnt realize that a punt return for a TD counted for less than a regular TD.
teams don't gameplan their defense around punt returns
Posted on 8/30/09 at 5:29 pm to whodatfan
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Reggie hasn't performed up to expectations? Whos? Yours?
dude
if i told you (right after the draft) reggie would be a mediocre runner and gimmick receiver and mediocre punt returner with rare flashes of brilliance while being hurt for big parts of 3 of his 4 seasons, you'd have told me i was crazy
when he was drafted, you thought he'd produce more. don't lie
Posted on 8/30/09 at 6:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bush = Eric Metcalf. Hes a nice complimentary, versatile player. He helps more than he hurts us. For people who remeber Metcalf they are very similiar and for of u who dont go youtube and look at some more of his highlights.
Eric Metcalf Highlights
People who are bitching about his contract..This statement is very accurate.
And if you think we should trade him because he sucks then what makes you think an NFL team wants him or wants to give up good value for him.
Eric Metcalf Highlights
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How many rookies that get paid this much on their first contract seriously deserve it? None. If Reggie was on his second contract, you would have every reason in the world to bitch about his performance not living up to his price tag.
People who are bitching about his contract..This statement is very accurate.
And if you think we should trade him because he sucks then what makes you think an NFL team wants him or wants to give up good value for him.
This post was edited on 8/30/09 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 8/30/09 at 10:01 pm to CM84
WOW, I really stuck a nerve with the Bush lovers. Just to straighten things out I think he's an incredible back. My point is there looks to be some horses in the stables right now that get the job done. I think the Saints could get a very high 1st and 2nd rounder to bolster the defense next year. Sorry I don't have a man crush on him like some of you people, in fact he showed me his true character in the bears game turning around taunting the bears player, then the Saints got their arse whipped.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 10:09 pm to lsusince60
strike a nerve? not really. anytime you start a thread with either "reggie" or "bush" you'll get anywhere from 5-15 pages guaranteed.
Posted on 8/30/09 at 10:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
PLEASE PLEASE ANSWER THIS SFP?
how is it regggies fault he's making the money he is? why should we say he's not living up to his contract?
Posted on 8/30/09 at 10:37 pm to lsusince60
Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas will be unstoppable. Reggie should not be traded
Posted on 8/30/09 at 11:16 pm to lsusince60
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I think the Saints could get a very high 1st and 2nd rounder to bolster the defense next year.
If he could garner that much he would be producing to a level where none of these threads would ever appear. Go do salary cap 101. Real value they might get a 3rd for him if someone was sold on him being the answer to that team's need... maybe.
I'm a fan and pulling for him to have THE year of all years. His cap hit vs. his track record is the issue. The potential he still has is obvious. How that translates beyond '09 will be determined by this year's performance.
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:23 pm to Bayou
After this season, unless Bush has an app rpo year, we should trade him and also Jamaal Brown. Bush because we are getting close to his free agent year and he has not produced enough. We have enough weapons without him.
Brown because Bushrod is coming on strong and Jamaal's bad knews should be a good time to unload him.
Thenw tih the picks get a stud LB and a stud DT
Brown because Bushrod is coming on strong and Jamaal's bad knews should be a good time to unload him.
Thenw tih the picks get a stud LB and a stud DT
Posted on 8/31/09 at 1:43 pm to Six Saint
Let's trade away two productive players so we can run the risk of drafting another, more expensive version of Johnathan Sullivan. Let's do this!
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