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re: Simple question about Vacarro

Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:26 pm to
To answer your question, I think he is a top 15 prospect in this draft, maybe even as high as 12.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:30 pm to
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decent starter


that would be an upgrade. Tony Gonzalez is still running free in the Saints' secondary as we speak.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
Member since Feb 2012
834 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:31 pm to
If we're going on strictly tape.. TM7 is a top 15 player
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10607 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:31 pm to
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15th best player in this draft


You keep saying this.


If the 15th best player were a RB, and the previous 14 were picked, would you have had the Saints pick a RB?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177058 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:32 pm to
quote:



If the 15th best player were a RB, and the previous 14 were picked, would you have had the Saints pick a RB?



you're like a handful of pennies just making too much cents.
Posted by GeauxCraigrz
Southern Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
480 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:32 pm to
The best teams always go BPA
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

The best teams always go BPA


So who do you think was the better players available?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128653 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

The best teams always go BPA



I don't think you know what BPA means.

It doesn't mean that they rank players 1-1000 and just pick who ever is left on the list.

They rank players in tiers and groups. When a tier comes up they assemble the players within that tier, rank them, then use fit, need, character, etc to pick the player that bests suits them.

If he's the 15th best player in the draft is irrelevant. FWIW, he was top 20 on literally every reputable draft site I'm aware of.
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4217 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm to
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What game's did he stand out to you as the best safety 15th best player in this draft? I'm asking so I can get educated like the rest of you good gents.


You ain't gonna get a straight answer bro. Give it up.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23576 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

The best teams always go BPA




You didn't answer his question.
Posted by GeauxCraigrz
Southern Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
480 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:37 pm to
I know I realized I won't get a straight answer. Was hoping for a level headed responses so I can watch the games where Vacarro stood out and you say that kid is gonna be special.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470893 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

To answer your question, I think he is a top 15 prospect in this draft, maybe even as high as 12.

in terms of value?
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23576 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

you say that kid is gonna be special.



I didn't say that. I wanted Jones, FYI.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23576 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:39 pm to
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in terms of value?


Not this shite again.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

in terms of value?


no, in terms of best football ability.
Posted by GeauxCraigrz
Southern Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
480 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:43 pm to
I wanted Jones as well but the front office made the decision Vacarro was best for this team. Just wanted to fell better about the pick and the more games on YouTube I watch, the more I didn't see what the fuss was about. I've seen two other safeties play better this year. But like I said haven't watched all the games and want to know which ones to go watch and focus mainly on Vacarro.
Posted by drjeff17
lake charles, la.
Member since Aug 2008
1115 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:43 pm to
He's a hitter and won't drop the obvious interceptions you need in the nfl. Will pay dividends year one.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

I know I realized I won't get a straight answer. Was hoping for a level headed responses so I can watch the games where Vacarro stood out and you say that kid is gonna be special



Here you go, just watch all these games.
Senior Year:

tallied one interception which set up a touchdown, one PBU and six tackles in the season-opener against Wyoming ... posted nine tackles, one PBU and recovered his first career fumble vs. New Mexico ... named the game's defensive MVP by the coaching staff... notched five tackles and one quarterback pressure against Ole Miss ... registered five tackles (three solo), including one TFL, and one interception vs. Oklahoma State ... recorded 11 tackles, including one for a loss, vs. West Virginia ... had nine tackles against Oklahoma ... tallied eight tackles, including one for a loss, and one forced fumble vs. Baylor ... had 11 tackles, including one for a loss, and had one forced fumble against Kansas ... had nine stops vs. Texas Tech ... posted four tackles, one pass breakup and one QB pressure against Iowa State ... posted 11 stops on defense vs. TCU ... matched his career high with 13 tackles, including a career-best 12 solo stops, against Kansas State ... registered seven tackles and a career-high tying two pass breakups in the win over Oregon State in the Alamo Bowl

Junior Year:
registered 82 tackles, including eight tackles for loss and two sacks, two interceptions, eight pass breakups and seven pressures on the season ... tied for third on the team in tackles, third in PBUs and tied for fifth in TFLs ... had five or more tackles in all but two games ... helped Texas lead the Big 12 and rank sixth in the nation in rushing defense (96.23 ypg) and 11th in total defense (306.08) ... also ranked 10th in pass efficiency defense (111.0) ... helped the Longhorns hold California to 7 rushing yards and 195 yards of total offense in the Holiday Bowl with his five tackles, a career-high tying two tackles for loss, one sack and two QB pressures ... racked up a career-high 13 tackles (eight solo), one interception, and one pressure at UCLA to garner the team's Defensive Player of the Week ... intercepted a pass to go with three tackles and one pass breakup at Texas A&M ... tallied nine tackles, one tackle for loss, one pass breakup and one pressure against Texas Tech ... reached double digits with 10 tackles and one tackle for loss at Missouri ... recorded seven tackles (five solo) and one PBU in the season-opener against Rice ... had six tackles and a career-high tying two pass breakups against Oklahoma State ... finished with six tackles and one tackle for loss against Kansas State as the defense held the Wildcats to 121 yards of total offense ... notched five tackles (three solo) in win against BYU ... finished with six tackles, including a career-high tying two tackles for loss and one sack, at Iowa State ... had five tackles, including one for a loss, and a career-high tying two pass breakups against Oklahoma ... helped lead the defense to a shut out performance against Kansas, allowing only 46 yards of total offense and minus-2 rushing yards ... recorded five tackles at Baylor.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75133 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:44 pm to
But look at his value chart Damnit.
He has a chart.
It shows values.
It shows what to do.
With values assigned to every fricking position.
Look at it.
Posted by Fleur de Diable
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
987 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Looking at 4 YouTube videos isn't watching tape


Amen.

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