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Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
2034 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:17 pm to
you got the last of the decent ones. I just changed out the Condensing unit at a buddy's house. 2013 goodman. grounded compressor.
Posted by Houstontiger281
Member since Nov 2017
32 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:18 pm to
That's the problem they all have. Especially if you live in coastal areas.
Posted by MNCscripper
St. George
Member since Jan 2004
11891 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:22 pm to
I do not recommend Lennox. I have 2 units, have had to get my upstairs unit serviced 10 times in the last 3 years. Some under warranty some not. I've dealt with Lennox direct and they are clueless.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4947 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:24 pm to
about to replace my Rheem unit that was installed in my home in 1995. Changed the inside coils about 4 years ago.
Just started losing freon this past year, so I decided to buy a new unit.
Buying a new Rheem 3.5 ton 16 SEER unit with heat strip on line for $2214.00
Local guy is going to do the install.
Cheapest I found local was $5300 installed.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:28 pm to
as long as it is ruud/rheem (they are pretty much the same thing made by the same company), lennox, or trane you have a good reliable name brand.

then comes the 2nd tier brands like amana and bryant which are just a little below the others.

then comes the 3rd tier economy brands like york, goodman, luxaire, which are cheap units usually put into rental properties that work well, but are not very high quality. these are also the most common ones installed by generic home builders doing whole sub divisions

my personal choice would be ruud/rheem or trane, i just had a ruud installed at a house i am renovating.

i worked 35 yrs as an a/c & htg tech
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40127 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:28 pm to
Where are you located? Our bid for the 5 ton RUUD 14 seer with heat pump was more than your local install price.

(Don't know that we need/want heat pump but he gave an estimate to replace what we currently have -- lol my husband was fishing so I was here to deal with it)
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41877 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Stay away from Goodman


I have Goodman in my primary residence (3 units), and in 7 rent houses. Ranging in age from 3-8 years. Never had a problem with any of them.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4947 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:39 pm to
South of Lafayette.
Desormeaux AC gave us the installed price. That was for a 3.5 ton 14SEER A/C unit not a heat pump.
Heat pumps were in the $6200-7000 range.
I think that is pretty good for a local company, I just wanted to save some bucks so I looked on line. Hoping this does not bite me in the butt.
Fond a place on ebay budgetairsupply that sells Rheem and Goodman.
The new Rheem unit was the same exact physical size as my old unit. I am hoping this will simplify the replacement.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:48 pm to
I come here for the pissy contractor slap-fights.

Regardless of brand, if it's installed correctly It'll last 12-15 years usually. I'm from a family plumbing, electrical and HVAC supply house business, but I didn't take it over, my brother did. He sells two or three brands IIRC but it really doesn't matter. Ruud, Trane, Carrier, American Standard... whatevs.

Tankless water heaters however...
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13680 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

Just started losing freon this past year, so I decided to buy a new unit.


What do you HVAC guys think about these stop leak products?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40127 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Desormeaux AC


Literally my backyard neighbor. Hope it work out for you.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2572 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:18 pm to
I have American standard AC and heating. I like it. I had a couple of issues with the blower, but all was replaced under warranty, At the time I received a ten year parts and labor warranty, and a 12 year compressor warranty.

American Standard is the same as Trane, as mentioned earlier.

I suggest buying from a manufacturer approved installer.

One thing that impressed me was that the dealer had a high ranking employee come out to check the install a week after it was done to ensure nothing was half assed. I did not know this until the install was finished.

I got it for cheap at the time, a similar system now is nearly double. I think the dealer was deeply discounting against all competitors to gain market share, and make money on annual contracts. I lucked out.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:50 pm to
Brand is more or less irrelevant. The most complicated part is the compressor and the compressors are usually contracted out anyway.

By far, the most important part of any HVAC system is the install and the charge.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82728 posts
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:03 pm to
Get a 3rd estimate from Central Heating and Air(if you're in BR)...they deal with Trane and I promise their quote will knock your socks off
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5996 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I've read York is manufacturing the best units these days.


This. York or any of the JCI products are seriously over built at this time. I'm also a fan of the Rheem/Ruud products, however they "may" be having some issues. They've had a rash of failed AHRI tests recently so there could be a manufacturing issue needing resolving. Trane has the best advertising in the business. It's not a bad product but it's not worth the extra dollars being charged. Goodman/Amana, since being purchased by Daikin, now builds a high quality product. If you venture near Carrier products, stick with the Infinity line or exit stage left. Their products are weak. Also, stay away from micro-channel products.

At the end of the day, get a good quality product and a damn good installer. Your installer can make a a good unit look bad. I great installer can make most units perform great.

I manufacture a/c equipment for all of the leading brands. I test everyone's equipment.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177028 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:53 am to
anyone else feel like they constantly replacing the capacitors?
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13585 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:57 am to
I have a Ruud and have had to have the coil replaced twice in 4 years. Would not buy again.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5996 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

anyone else feel like they constantly replacing the capacitors?


Very cheap Chinese or Mexican capacitors are used by the major players. Global capacitors are the best. They also come with a two year warranty which is not the standard industry warranty. It's just a damn good capacitor.
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