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Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:30 pm to
You still haven't explained why you think a term policy is a scam...
Posted by Skeeter 79
Prairieville, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2225 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:31 pm to
At 63, there shouldn't be a need for a large volume of life insurance.

But I always recommend having SOME permanent coverage for final expenses (burial, medical, legal)
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

term policy is a scam...


there are other policies out there where you gain equity, can borrow against, and you can cash them in. This is where I would go.

More like buying a home vs renting a home.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7820 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:41 pm to
I am thinking you would not ask this question face to face with him

Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59229 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

500k 30 yr level term at standard non-tobacco rate:

Unless she has some health problems, she should be at least preferred, if not preferred plus.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Buy term, invest the difference.

Universal life is bullshite; all it is is a money maker for the agent. Go straight term though 60-65 (or depending on when your kids will be on their own).
Posted by Skeeter 79
Prairieville, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2225 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:45 pm to
Agreed. But I don't know any medical history, so I quoted standard non-tobacco.

The reason people see so much variance between company quotes is because preferred rates are often quoted up front.

I don't feel it's fair to present info that may not be accurate
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:56 pm to
Correct but how do you reconcile the returns on a whole life policy against term when you factor in the difference in premiums? Statistics show the best option is to get a term policy and invest the premium difference in order to maximize growth and maintain a large death benefit
Posted by LionsTigersOMy
Member since Mar 2014
7 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:06 pm to
Clyde, get the term policy only, and strive to have everything paid off with a nice nest egg set aside for when you die. That will allow your survivors to bury you, and allow them the cash they would have gotten from the insurance policy.

Dave Ramsey son.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5464 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

there are other policies out there where you gain equity, can borrow against, and you can cash them in. This is where I would go.

More like buying a home vs renting a home.



quote:

you gain equity

In what way?


quote:

can borrow against

.. your own money. Correct, you can pay someone else interest to use your own money.

quote:

and you can cash them in

Only if you cancel the policy.


The ability for an insurance salesman to base his entire pitch on this being a good thing for normal working Americans baffles me.

Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40742 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

You're fat?


Technically, yes. At 6'1" I should way 205...
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5097 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 12:07 am
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:24 pm to
don't forget what happens if you croak, which is the whole purpose of an insurance policy
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5464 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

don't forget what happens if you croak, which is the whole purpose of an insurance policy


Which is, you get your death benefit and they keep the cash value you've built up.

Great "investment"
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:33 pm to
All term. You can convert some later. Do 5 100k 30 yr and think of converting 1 later
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5747 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Which is, you get your death benefit and they keep the cash value you've built up. Great "investment"



OK

I am pretty sure you are my girlfriend now. Just because you say more crap doesn't make you correct.

How am I going to get my death benefit if I die?

Full Death benefit is the same at day 1 as it is at day last.

Go get your term policy and I'll keep mine.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5464 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:45 pm to
My apologies everyone, I meant the beneficiary gets the death benefit.

Scribe, please note my mistake in the minutes along with my correction.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40742 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

How am I going to get my death benefit if I die?


"How can cigarette's be harmful? If you're dead, you can't smoke..."

Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19292 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:40 pm to
Do what you're comfortable doing because there are way too many insurance "professionals" up in here.
I own WL for as much premium that I can purchase and buy term insurance to cover the difference of my maximum insurability. I use my policy equity to make investments; collateral is the death benefit.
This is all the free advice I will ever give you about the value of tax free assets.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40161 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 4:01 pm to
I've got Protective Life ... term, 30 year, $500,000. Premium is right at $500 per year. Got it at the same age as you and then "redid" the app at like 6 or 8 years to restart the 30 years. Premium remained the same.

Non smoker. Good weight for height.

(I'd try Zander.com .. Dave Ramsey recs it. CHeck it out. No affiliation here.)
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