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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:21 am to Golfer
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:21 am to Golfer
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For starters the guy holding the gun that's "one of the officers" has his Twitter location currently as Lansing, MI...
Yea. I noticed that.
Doesn't change the fact I posted about 2011-2012.
There will be a lot of misdirection going on to satisfy different groups' interests the next few days. The key is to put the pieces together so you aren't left utterly confused.
That first false flag pic for lack of a better term pic should put the PD on high alert until cooler heads prevail and the experts can get to the bottom of all this
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:21 am to slackster
I don't have a bias.
My belief is that if you have a gun, or the cops think you have a gun and you resist them when they are on the ground with you they are more then likely going to shoot you and I don't necessarily think that is wrong after they tried to use non deadly force.
I also believe that he is clearly resisting them on the ground at 0:24 to 0:26 seconds when his upper body lifts from the ground and his right shoulder starts moving. That is enough for me to consider him resisting and for the cops to be concerned that he could get to his weapon.
Maybe how we define resisting arrest is not the same
My belief is that if you have a gun, or the cops think you have a gun and you resist them when they are on the ground with you they are more then likely going to shoot you and I don't necessarily think that is wrong after they tried to use non deadly force.
I also believe that he is clearly resisting them on the ground at 0:24 to 0:26 seconds when his upper body lifts from the ground and his right shoulder starts moving. That is enough for me to consider him resisting and for the cops to be concerned that he could get to his weapon.
Maybe how we define resisting arrest is not the same
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:21 am to AjaxFury
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There's a lot that you don't fricking know. LAPD had complete names & addy' of all officers on force released in 2011-2012 Wall St movement from hackers. Confirmed on LA Times
Maybe just once consider people are attuned to what's going on outside of their 15 mile territory, instead of assuming shite you don't know jack about.
And there is apparently a lot you don't know either jackass
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:25 am to Ed Osteen
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I'm laughing out loud at you
I would laugh at you, but you fail to see the long con in all of this, so it's not like you're plugged in enough for it to affect me. The fact that you thought hackers are capable of getting into they want is what's laughable.
See my previous post at the same time as yours- it's called the long con. Want me to spell it out for you
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:28 am to Ed Osteen
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And there is apparently a lot you don't know either jackass
I never complained to be omnipotent numb nuts.... But the fact that 4chan is involved validates my point about hackers involving themselves on this.
But keep deflecting facts, and putting your head in the sand, ostrich boy
Add: how back getting back on topic---- ANYBODY make out what the officer shouted as he pulled the trigger?
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 12:30 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:29 am to AjaxFury
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. The fact that you thought hackers are capable of getting into they want is what's laughable.
I said nothing about hackers, it's funny that you see names posted and jump to the conclusion that it's hackers, when really it's internet trolls fricking with gullible idiots like you.
quote:
it's called the long con. Want me to spell it out for you
Please do
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:30 am to crkelly91
Poor Alton
RIP
RIP
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:30 am to Brosef Stalin
Shhh
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 12:31 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:32 am to Walt OReilly
What does "carnal knowledge of a juvenile" mean exactly?
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:18 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:33 am to Brosef Stalin
It's irrelevant who he is. Y'all keep glossing over the FACT that complete names and addresses of officers were obtained in 2011 & 2012 by a group which was further published in the LA Times, with corresponding backlash from the LAPD, posing pictures of themselves with assault weapons at home in the NEWSPAPER.....and you pussies won't address that.
Carry on deflecting...the jokes on you. Over and out.
I don't deal with people who eat their own for entertainment in serious situations
Carry on deflecting...the jokes on you. Over and out.
I don't deal with people who eat their own for entertainment in serious situations
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:34 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
My belief is that if you have a gun, or the cops think you have a gun and you resist them when they are on the ground with you they are more then likely going to shoot you and I don't necessarily think that is wrong after they tried to use non deadly force.
We agree here. Whether he intended to use it or not unfortunately doesn't matter in the situation as it unfolds. They were left with no choice if a gun appeared during the struggle and he was moving. He may not have have consciously reached for it, but you cannot take that risk.
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I also believe that he is clearly resisting them on the ground at 0:24 to 0:26 seconds when his upper body lifts from the ground and his right shoulder starts moving. That is enough for me to consider him resisting and for the cops to be concerned that he could get to his weapon.
Maybe how we define resisting arrest is not the same
He has his head off the ground. Just as we give the cops the benefit of the doubt during the struggle we should do the same to the perp, to some extent. He isn't necessarily thinking rationally at that point and much of his reactions are subconscious too.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:34 am to Box Geauxrilla
quote:
What does "carnal knowledge of a juvenile" mean exactly?
Basically "fricking a juvenile"
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:39 am to slackster
quote:
He isn't necessarily thinking rationally at that point and much of his reactions are subconscious too.
Those are your words
Now would you agree that it is unreasonable to expect the police to not use deadly force when there is a man with a gun, resisting them, not able to be controlled with a tazer, who "isn't necessarily thinking rationally and much of his reactions are subconscious"?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:39 am to Ed Osteen
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gullible idiots like you.
One more parting gift: if you think that all the outraged will not reach into every resource available into the coming days, you're not only delusional, you're just a hype man for right now.
Foresight is a quality you lack, you may laugh now (hours after the event), but you'll be eating your words soon bet that.
My stance on this was articulated many pages back before you popped your ostrich neck in here
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:42 am to Spock's Eyebrow
The Advocate has people out there live tweeting photos and videos.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:44 am to Slinky
this Sam Hyde guy sure is busy
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:45 am to Box Geauxrilla
quote:
What does "carnal knowledge of a juvenile" mean exactly?
child molester
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Now would you agree that it is unreasonable to expect the police to not use deadly force when there is a man with a gun, resisting them, not able to be controlled with a tazer, who "isn't necessarily thinking rationally and much of his reactions are subconscious"?
Of course, and I've said as much during this thread. The police had their hands tied to so speak, assuming a gun appeared. Once that happened, the shooting was justified.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:51 am to crkelly91
Watched the video multiple times.
Officers shout he has a gun.
Next one officer says, "hey bro you fricking move I swear to god".
The same officer then shouts "he's going for the gun, he's going for the gun"
Shooting is justified. If you are the cop in that situation and you have a convicted felon with a weapon on the ground you don't take chances. First motion to gun, I'm taking him out if it's him or me.
Officers shout he has a gun.
Next one officer says, "hey bro you fricking move I swear to god".
The same officer then shouts "he's going for the gun, he's going for the gun"
Shooting is justified. If you are the cop in that situation and you have a convicted felon with a weapon on the ground you don't take chances. First motion to gun, I'm taking him out if it's him or me.
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